1. Enjoyed the article! Have one comment/question!
    We know tongues were for a season… Maybe I misunderstood but it seemed you were saying the “tongues” we know of in our Pentecostal experience wasn’t legitimate. You know what I’m talking about… How can it be for a season if it is as you described? Tongues will cease!

  2. Really, really appreciate the article. Love the part about the names of the ones who heard them speaking in tongues. Thanks, thanks and more thanks.


  4. I enjoyed your article and your rephrasing of the names of those who listened to them. I remember someone saying that they were not speaking in foreign languages when they spoke in tongues, but in a babbling that was understood as truthful. Perhaps beyond language. I can’t recall where I heard that unfortunately. Best wishes.

  5. Acts 2

    5Now there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven. 6And when this sound was heard, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speaking in his own language. 7And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying, Behold, are not all these that speak Galilaeans? 8And how hear we, every man in our own language wherein we were born?

    Every man heard in his own language.

    When the Holy Spirit speaks to me I always hear in English because that is the language I understand. He doesn’t speak French to me because I don’t understand French. The messenger could be Greek speaking the Language of Greece but the interpreter (Holy Spirit) who talks to my spirit speaks English to me.

    When I am in the presence of a speaker even when he is speaking English I am listening for the voice of the Holy Spirit within me to interpret the word. I do not hear the man I hear the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit knows all languages and can speak whatever language each individual understands.

    Blessing to you Jacob

    • Cherri,

      I added a bit more under that segment. I didn’t give my usual disclaimer. You know I always say, I am just a man, God to God for the answers. But I will answer your comment, the question becomes “Where are we BORN?” In Christ. Not in NY or Texas, we are dead in the temporal, but Born in the spiritual. Also remember Tongues are a SIGN for the unbeliever, and Jesus said NO SIGN shall be given but Jonah’s… And that sign was coming out of carnality and into truth… In otherwords, speaking a different literal language isn’t Jonah’s sign… but speaking the TRUTH OF GOD is Jonah’s sign. God doesn’t need any magical acts to bring people to the knowledge of the truth it is always a HEART WORK, he speak and reveals inside. Sometimes the revelation we get and speak, needs to be broken down for others to understand what we are saying (Interpreted) — Cherri, I used to speak in literal tongues too, but I began to see that this was just another thing Religion had taught me was a “sign of the Holy Spirit” – in point of fact, the HOLY SPIRIT brings to remembrance the WORD of God, (The TRUTH) being baptized into GOD’S TRUTH really has nothing to do with speaking “Dutch” … But please understand, like everything I write I could be wrong and I only write what I believe to be true and pray people go to God for what is true or not. Hope you’re well, peace

  6. Hi Jacob

    Hope you didn’t think I was disagreeing with you.

    What I am saying is that the emphasis we have been taught was put upon speaking in a foreign language rather than the (hearing from within) as the Holy Spirit gave understanding to all. They heard the word(truth) within themselves in their own language (understanding).

    The truth is as a foreign language to those who do not hear from within.

    There is a language that is foreign to the majority

  7. Man you really grease my gears and get me thinking as Don King says” I LOVE IT!” you know Jacob, it seems very clear to me that if God’s promise were an earthly kingdom then Israel would be heaven on earth but it is exactly the opposite. They are constantly troubled. So forget the heaven on earth concept. Look at the History there, but I suppose that will all be taken care of in the thousand year reign when jesus returns in a physical body or spirtual/physical to kill the and punish everyone except the jews. That doesn’t seem to be consistent with the nature that christ exhibited. I’ll tell ya man the whole allegory thing is clearing up alot of confusion that I’ve had about scripture.

  8. hi, just skimmed your article and appreciated your unique viewpoints, but found you incorrect according to scripture re the tongues ceasing, and the meaning of the spiritual enlightening, ie honey,

    …tongues of fire,…described the shape of the fire-like visual that appeared above the heads of those that received. This was a literal record of the happening, ie. same with the sound of the Wind, another Wind sound occurred when the LORD came near Moses.(The LORD himself was not in the Wind, -same with chariot of fire and the whirlwind,
    elijah did not get into the chariot,…but the whirlwind,..)

    You are ‘seeing’ with the ‘honey’ it was for strengthening the eyes and giving you eyes to see the revelation with, but I think you go too far with your interpretation of the coming of the Holy Spirit, since the endowment of the Holy Spirit was for all believers for all time, the baptism of the Holy
    spirit after conversion, then the signs of speaking in different languages should continue right along with it, – same with the giving of the 5 fold ministry gifts – many teach in error that these have been withdrawn, however, the text clearly says that they are given for the perfecting of the church intil All come to the fullness and measure of the full stature of Jesus. (this plainly has not yet occurred, so the 5 fold are here with us to stay)

  9. from Pat….continuing,…I realize you are receiving some revelation,….but you have drifted off scripture with some of it and are getting into error, I think…., it is dangerous, for you, and those following you, so consider carefully what you post,…allowing things to run around in your head and discussing them with yourself is one thing, taking a following of people with you down a wrong road is another thing entirely,….remember that teachers will receive the most critical and in depth and severe judgement,….you are not at liberty to print just anything at all that you may think about,…according to the Lord, if you are in doubt, just ask Him yourself, and if you cannot hear His answer, and do not know what He says to you, this is doubly not ok for you….

  10. cont’d from pat,….don’t be upset with me, for what
    i am writing to you, what you write is exciting, because part of it is revelation,
    i believe the Holy Spirit is giving you revelation, but it is mixed- mostly because you did not study to show yourself approved, (forgive the mispellings/letters ets. this is a laptop, im typing on my tummy) you are definitely getting some,- honey=revelation, but it is mixed with some carnal understanding,…
    ….i will explain, that the scriptures have diff. levels of understanding, …there is the factual record level, -this is not an ordinary book, it is Creator-breathed,…so it is supernatural, there is the record level, there is a deeper level, and several other deeper levels, ….your writing tried to change the factual record parts to explain deeper meaning – which is an insult to the LORD almighty and may land you in the hot water of getting your name erased, from another book, see revelations,….it is VERY serious, so don’t take this lightly….
    ….about the revelation you are receiving,…it is insight, and it is a type of ‘seeing’ that comes by the Holy Spirit revealing things, sometimes it may just be one or two words that you gain insight on, but you MUST NOT change or alter anything in the written record to suit what you want to say, ie. alter the record of the coming of the Holy
    spirit on the 120 gathered,…this is factual on the surface, and the bible is completely reliable in its factual records of things, which has been proven down thr08gh centuries, ie. used to find cities, etc. and science has changed many times in its opinions to come back to agreeing with what the scriptures say and present,…
    ….John baptist ate ‘honey’ which is revelation from the Lord, he lived on it,…Jonathan David’s friend found honey strengthened his eyes,…(eyesight = spiritual seeing) land flowing with milk and honey describes physical as well as spiritual things,…those that teach prosperity do it based on the scriptures, and they are truths, what they teach is not made up man made and what they are accused of, the ‘prosperity gospel’ which is false speaking about it and them, there is only one true gospel and it is full of prosperity, that is physical material prosperity for the believer,…i have studied this, …and it also includes prosperity in all the diff. parts of life, spiritual especially,…anyway,…

    Paul was given revelation, however, he said he could not preach or teach it sometimes, because the people were living carnally, and not walking in the Holy
    spirit, so it was useless for him to give it as they could not receive it,.a nd it would fall dead without producing life in the hearers,…he was attacked by the spiritual opposition for this, -paul;s famous thorn, messenger of satan sent to keep him from getting elevated beyond measure, elevated? this has been thought to mean pride, but why would a messenger of satan keep paul from pride? it would want to encourage paul to be prideful, not keep him from it, – the hebrew meaning of the word interpreted as ‘elevate’ in that text means lifted up and has two meanings, one is lifted up as lifted up into revelation beyond measure, the other preached meaning is lifted up as in pride,…i think the revelation meaning is the accurate one,…

    the outpouring of the Holy Spirit is real, speaking in other languages is real, as you are given ab ility by the HOLY
    SPIRIT, IT has been recorded what people say and others knowing that language have heard it and know what the person is saying,…etc…it is not fake and never did stop or cease, as nowhere in the bible does it say it ceased, you should ask God for this and seek Him to receive it,…it will improve your understanding of scripture right away,…

  11. from pat when i spoke of john baptist eating honey i shouod have qualified it first to explain that yes he ate real physical honey but the deeper meaning behind it is that he ate the enlightenment of God’s Word=honey too, which is understood by those that understand the symbols in the bible, honey=revelation from the Lord, deeper meanings under the surface of the text,….ie. the numbers and their meanings, in the bible 12 meaning divine government, perfected, full, etc. 3 meaning the Godhead, 7, 5 meaning grace, etc. and all the other meanings ie. the first being less than the second, in
    adam 1 and adam 2(jesus) the first twin being less approved than the second, etc. old testament, the second is always better,…

    here is a little more revelation, i do not know your writing so dont know if you are aware of this or not, but the deeper levels of meaning in the scripture are called pardes, which means orchard paradise or eden. smile

  12. from pat – – – because you are seeing the revelation of the scripture, does not negate or wipe out its more surface levels of meaning, because you understand ‘wind’ meaning ‘doctrine’ does not negate that an actual sound of a wind came and the house actually shook, and that real looking flames of fire appeared that looked like a shape of a tongue and that real people spoke in languages that had not learned and did not know, and no it wasn’t jusst for those from all over in jerusalem at that time, who heard them,…
    ….this is where you are going wrong,…
    ….Jesus showed the Father in how he interacted,…and Jesus was loving, however, you can still believe in a real and literal hell because the bible says there is one, and no, a loving God wouldnt throw people in there, people will choose this by themselves, and God will have no choice and it will rip His heart right out,…because they choose that…God knows the end before the beginning, therefore he created some people knowing where they would end up,…this is the meaning of the scriptures that say that some are ‘vessels prepared for destruction’
    ….this would rip the heart out of any father,…we know that ‘it is NOT God’s will for any to perish’ yet they have and will….

    you may be trying to discern revelation without being baptised in the Holy Spirit – baptizo means baptised, and it means to pickle…smile

    • Hi Pat, thank you for taking the time to comment, and a lot of comments at that, which means you really put some time into this. I understand that some of the things I write, if not all of them :), can come across as foreign to people that have learned things a different way. Instead of telling people they are wrong, I simply try and share in these articles what I know them to be… It is then up to people to pray and seek the truth themselves to see if what I wrote stands up to what they find. I will say that I have studied the scriptures for the better part of my life and continue to study, not because I believe I have too but because I am passionate about it. It’s easy for people to say others are incorrect, when others share something different, but that doesn’t make it incorrect, it just means I have shared something that you don’t believe. And that is okay, I will say that out of everything you wrote about there is one thing I encourage you to really research, and that is the origin of eternal torment. I have an article on here where all the work is done for you called “the hell with hell”, but you don’t need that. The History of this teaching is easily found with the internet, and biblegateway.com makes it easy to read every scripture with the word in it, and studylight.org makes it easy to translate the words from the original language. In any event thank you again for the time you put into your comments and I hope that we can still appreciate and love and encourage each other even if we believe differently. Peace to you and yours, Jacob

  13. fr pat, thank you for your reply, I do not know all that you believe and say, and print for others, so I cannot with confidence bless you, (as yet) but I do love you, so love to you and yours,…..May we all search for and find and know the truth and be made free by it,….

  14. fr. pat heloo again, i re read your article above, this is my first contact with your page/blog/ideas/etc., i realize i just scimmed and missed a lot with the first reading i did. ,…

    the second reading brings what you are saying more cleary into focus,…,..

    i really love most of what you said,…maybe 70 percent or 80, but disagreed with some things,…

    i love that you are allowing yourself to think freely, and let your mind ‘out of the box’ so to speak,…i love your mind, and your thinking,….i lov e you,…(not a marriage proposal, unless you might be single, -joking)
    i am wondering if it is your real picture above, really you, or are you using jacobisrael and the picture as psudonyms and psudopics for those that misunderstand and might give you trouble? just wondering,….
    I too have been eating ‘honey’, and b een growing b y it, i asked the questions because you sound similar to someone whose thought i read, and who was at same place as I am, it seemed, with revelation /understanding, his name is Chris fr uk…EAGLE MOUNTAIN PROPHECY (ELIJAH IS HERE) (meaning Christ in us| Prophecy And …www.forerunnertv.com/more/teachings/25Cached, you sound similar to him, but he agrees with me on the literal truth of the scripture, inerrant holiness, on the first level of understanding, and you would seem not to agree with that, ie, no real tongues? no real wind, etc. i believe the scritpure is inerrant, on every level, you

    and this is VERY IMPORTANT HERE you seem to throw out the first level , the literal level as errant, and only a stepping stone to the other levels, / truer meaning, however, i believe that all levels are inerrant, which is what the book says about itself and science and history have proved it to be correct,…, in many ways,…

    so, jacob/israel , your mind is brilliant, it is enlightened, and glowing, honey is flowing out of your head,….
    however, there is some clay mixed in i think, meaning some error,

    Christ in you, the hope of Glory, the Mind of Christ, eternal wonders! yes, ..
    ….please consider,
    …………and think on this, the scripture can and is inerrant, on every level of understanding, simply because it is God’s book, inspired for us, and He can easily make it that way….why do you throw out the first several levels?,..

    ……yes you are a Rabbi,/teacher/preacher/about spiritual things,….people are listening, and you have a following, people read what you write,…

    ,…………don’t remove or change one thing from the scripture,…

    I would like to talk with you further, because I am hungry for every drop of honey you may have, however, i believe i am true in saying you have some ‘bones’ or ‘clay’ mixed in with the revelation, so you need more honey to be able to see further,……and more,….i think you are mistaken, and may lead others into the same error, on some of what you say,…

    • Good afternoon, dear brothers … at this time we shall all be taught of God .. I think every thing we share is for building and if the Spirit dwells in us, because we need not fear to be deceived, always helps us to discern what the spiritual nature … Thanks for being all we needed in this beautiful awakening in Christ … special thanks to Jacob

  15. My God!!*BLOW OUT OF EARTH* wow wow wow wow wow wow!!my Jesus..my brother i Like could sense The LIGHT of the LORD gettn strnger,brighter and almst SWEEPING off.Thank you brother indeed u r REAVELING the SECRETS of the KINGDON of our God..i felt like i cud read such essay’s evy SECOND of my life like 4real ey.WOW i wnt the same thng and evn mre.

    • I am so happy that you enjoyed the essay. There are many others here to choose from. I hope they all bless you. Please do subscribe and share this site with others if you believe it will help them. Peace to you and yours, Jacob

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