WHO IS LUCIFER?… REALLY WHO?
You may have heard it said, that SATAN was once God’s most beautiful angels and that he (Satan) decided to become God and take over, so God cast him down to the earth where he now rules. In addition, you may have heard that God and Satan are now in some cosmic chess match over the souls of humanity.
You may have also heard that Satan goes by another name. That name, many say, is LUCIFER, the morning star.
Well, this paper is not about what you may, or may not, have heard. It is about what, and who, Satan and Lucifer really are, according to scripture.
Much of the teaching that endorses the belief that Lucifer is Satan is drawn out of the following scripture.
Isaiah 14 12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. 16They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, IS THIS THE MAN that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
I want to point out some things in this scripture that describe who, and what, Lucifer IS. As well as point out what Lucifer did.
1) Lucifer fell from Heaven (Union with God)
2) Lucifer is called, The Son of the Morning, Morning Star.
3) Lucifer, tried to be like God
4) Lucifer is a MAN.
Let us now briefly move over to Satan, who, is also called the Devil.
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:
Satan does not appear to be a Man, anywhere in scripture. Satan seems to be FOUND INSIDE people, in the MIDST of people. It seems almost as if Satan is IN man’s thoughts, tempting them, as Satan tempted Peter, Judas, as well as a score of others in scripture, and US in the world.
Remember, when we are tempted by Satan, the temptation manifests as “thoughts” in our mind. There is no literal serpent who slithers up to us and whispers in our ears. And when we see people who are wicked, it is as if SATAN is inside them, possessing them if you will. Why is this?
When we are tempted we are drawn away by our own LUSTS. You’ll find these LUSTS to be the spirit (thoughts) of Satan itself.
When Christ called Peter, Satan, he was talking to PETER, not another man. At that moment, PETER was Christ’s adversary. Peter was trying to talk him out of his great purpose, because PETER didn’t understand the things of God at that moment, he only knew the things of man. Which is the ONLY thing Satan concerns himself with.
“Get thee behind me SATAN for thou ONLY LOVETH the THINGS OF MAN”
Well, why wouldn’t the FATHER OF LIES, love Man, when MAN, according to God, is a LIAR to begin with.
Christ also called Judas, The Son of Perdition, and we saw how Satan entered JUDAS, to get JUDAS to “do what he must”. Judas, most likely believed he was doing the will of God. He, also, didn’t understand the MYSTERY of CHRIST, that was working in JESUS. He saw it as error and betrayed him, because, like PETER, he only understood the things of MAN.
There are many times, Mankind, mistakes the LIES OF SATAN for the Truth of God. People have been literally killing in the name of God for centuries. It is no different today. Satan (LIES IN MAN) can come as an ANGEL(message/messenger) of LIGHT.
Jesus called JUDAS, the SON OF PERDITION as well as many others. When speaking to the JEWS, he said they were the children of Satan… Why? …
Because they did not UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH… Are we seeing a trend yet?
John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
They could not understand GOD’S WORD. Which is TRUTH. “Your WORD oh Lord is TRUTH”
44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do…
There we see that word LUSTS again.
..He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
I want to point out here, that SATAN was a MURDERER from the BEGINNING. This will be important later in this essay. That word BEGINNING is the same one used in Genesis. “In the BEGINNING” … Which means, Satan NEVER HAD THE TRUTH. He was created a LIAR, and the FATHER OF ALL LIES. You see there is no TRUTH in Him, Never Was… This you will see, is yet another proof, that SATAN is not LUCIFER. As Lucifer, once had the TRUTH and FELL. Satan, was ALWAYS a LIAR.
So, we are dealing with the TRUTH OF GOD and the LIES of SATAN. Which Man, believes.
Now many picture Satan tempting Jesus in the wilderness, as appearing to him as some spooky snake, horned beasts, or angelic like creature.
However, scripture tells us Jesus was TEMPTED the SAME WAY, we are tempted. Many priests, pastors, preachers and evangelists fail to mention this point.
Hebrews 4:15 – For we have not an high priest (Jesus) which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Jesus was tempted LIKE WE ARE tempted. Now if we take this literally, this means, that Jesus was being tempted by the THOUGHTS OF MAN (carnal things) which is what SATAN does. Jesus was tempted by WORLDY THINGS… and ALL that is IN THE WORLD is the (Lust of the Flesh, The Lust of the Eyes, and the Pride of Life.)
Many fail to see the ALLEGORY of Christ’s temptation. They picture Satan whispering in Jesus’s ears. You’ve seen the classic cartoon of the devil on the shoulder. These images just perpetuate the LIE. Most are conditioned to believe this nonsence from childhood because of these images.
Many take Jesus’s temptation much the same way. Many see Jesus being wisked away to the top of some temple and being tempted to worship Satan.
But Jesus was tempted the EXACT same way we are. We also, are asked to turn STONES (religious law) into BREAD (life giving Truth) … We too, when we enter Religion are tempted to find LIFE through our WORKS instead of EVERY WORD that comes out of God. We too, are tempted to give in to everyone one of our Lusts, believing we can RULE THE WORLD if we only follow our nasty thoughts, like stepping on others, or cheating and lying to get one up on another, or having an affair.
And when we are tempted thus… (Hope you don’t mind me putting in those Old English phrases to sound all smart and such J) … and when we are tempted, as Jesus was tempted, is it NOT BY A MAN… We are not tempted by a MAN, as this “Lucifer ” character is said to be. We are TEMPTED when we are DRAWN AWAY BY OUR OWN LUSTS.
The lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life. = This is temptation. And SATAN is the FATHER of it, and Satan tempts us from WITHIN. Which means people, in our THOUGHTS.
You don’t have to believe me… believe Jesus and scripture. When the Pharisees were dogging Jesus for not washing his hands, as I do with my kids before dinner, Jesus said something very profound and it would be best if we believe it.
Mark 7:15: There is nothing from without (outside) a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
Jesus made it clear, NOTHING OUTSIDE OF US ENTERS US and DEFILES US… So much for believing in some spooky Devil and his Wicked Demons flying around outside of us, battling for the souls of humanity.
You see, Jesus said, the THINGS INSIDE MAN that COME OUT OF MAN, are the THINGS THAT DEFILE HIM. This SATAN is WITHIN.
And Satan TEMPTS US… How you ask? “When we are DRAWN AWAY by our OWN LUSTS.”
Satan tempts = Lust in Man
It’s easy to see that SATAN is not a MAN, as Lucifer is.
I think it is also important to note that Satan can ONLY TEMPT, when GOD ALLOWS or COMMANDS IT. So much for that cosmic battle going on.
Satan tempted Job at God’s command. Jesus was DRIVEN INTO THE WILDERNESS by the SPIRIT OF GOD to be TEMPTED OF SATAN (To be drawn away by MAN’S lusts).
Many forget to teach this part. That GOD drove JESUS to SATAN. Now there is a very important reason for this. Let’s consider first what an adversary is, in a simple allegory.
I go to the gym and lifts weights. The WEIGHTS resist MY STRENGTH. The stronger I get, the More Resistance I need to become even stronger. In other words, working out is the Devil! I joke of course… ha ha ha 🙂
Just like working out, we have spiritual weights that weigh upon us, guilt, shame, sadness, anger, lust, etc etc… that resist us spiritually. And we must keep PRESSING AGAINST to overcome it. And as we do this, we become STRONG SPIRITUALLY.
John 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
An interesting thing to note is that GOD drove JESUS into the wilderness to be tempted, in much the same way as he DROVE ADAM out of the garden and into the wilderness. The point is, God is in charge. He did the driving, Satan did the tempting.
“God does all for HIS good pleasure.” = God is in control.
I want to hammer this point home… Jesus was tempted IN ALL POINTS as we are. And we are tempted again, by our CARNAL THOUGHTS, when we are “DRAWN AWAY BY OUR OWN LUSTS”
SATAN is NOT A MAN at all. But a SPIRIT. And JESUS casts out the SPIRIT of DEVILS. (The thoughts, LUSTS and lies of MAN)
Matthew 8:16
When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick.
Notice how JESUS cast out the DEVILS… with HIS WORD, which is TRUTH. Jesus is the WORD OF GOD, which is TRUTH. Satan is the FATHER OF ALL LIES. It makes sense that only the TRUTH can destroy a LIE… (Wouldn’t you say?).
Let me give you an example: To show you in “earthly” terms, how the TRUTH destroys and casts out the LIE.
For many years people believed the world was flat and the center of the universe. This was THEIR IGNORANT BELIEF, it was NOT true. But they didn’t know any better. They LOVED the darkness (their ignorance). And, if anyone spoke to the contrary of what they ignorantly believed, those people would be called heretics and put to death. Unfortunately, this is still at work today in the world of Religion. This is a great lesson for us, as today, many are taught things about God that just aren’t true, and when the TRUTH is presented to those deceived (As the Pharisees of Jesus’ day) they will try to discredit, tear down, and even kill, those that speak the Truth.
Nevertheless, the WORD never returns void. The TRUTH will accomplish what it is sent into the world to do.
This is why, today we know that the Earth is more like a sphere and the SUN is the center of the universe. You see the lie persisted only as long as the TRUTH was not presented. But once the TRUTH was BELIEVED, the LIE (world being flat) is destroyed and never believed again. The LIE is revealed to God’s creation, mankind, cast out, and destroyed.
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
The darkness (their ignorance/lie) was overcome by the LIGHT (Truth). Once the TRUTH was spoken about the world being more like a sphere, the LIE that was believed (a flat world) was CAST OUT!
This is a great example of how Christ CASTS OUT DEVILS. And what are DEVILS, but False Beliefs and Lies TO BEGIN WITH. (For more information, check out my article on “Taking up Serpents” on this blog).
But let’s get back to this SATAN CAT. For the hundredth time, clearly, we see SATAN is not a MAN, cannot be a MAN. Satan can ONLY be A SPIRIT (thoughts) inside a MAN.
One could say, SATAN is simply the LUSTS OF MAN. “We are TEMPTED when we are DRAWN away by our OWN LUSTS”
SATAN = SPIRIT = LUSTS = OUR CARNAL THOUGHTS
Jesus said, “My WORDS are SPIRIT and truth.”
God is SPIRIT… and no one has seen God at anytime.
You see A SPIRIT is a THOUGHT. The question is which THOUGHT are we believing and which THOUGHTS do CHRIST (The Truth) cast away.
Many will fight with their dying breath that LUCIFER is SATAN, and deny that LUCIFER is ACTUALLY (ADAM)
“WHAT? WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?” some people will say after reading this last line… But SETTLE down “church”, I’ll explain.
You see in the Garden, ADAM fell. The reason is because ADAM (Lucifer) tried to become God himself.
Look, I’ll come right out and tell you, Lucifer is NOT SATAN. This is a false teaching, a HUGE error. Lucifer is another name for ADAM. The rest of this paper will back up this statement.
SIDE BY SIDE – FACTS:
SATAN is not a MAN. —- Lucifer is a MAN.
Satan is a SPIRIT —- Lucifer’s flesh is eaten by worms. (FLESH not SPIRIT)
Satan never had TRUTH (Murderer/LIAR from the BEGINNING) — Lucifer once had the TRUTH
This last point is our “DEAD” giveaway.
LUCIFER is a MAN that FELL in the GARDEN, because HE WANTED TO BE GOD.
Now doesn’t that sound like another MAN, we know, that God created to be his express image on earth? ADAM, perhaps?
Did not ADAM the MAN, exalt himself by eating the fruit of the tree that SATAN (who was a liar from the beginning) tempted Eve with.
Did not ADAM clearly disobey God and FALL out of HEAVEN (PARADISE), as we are told Lucifer did?
I know what some will say… The GARDEN isn’t HEAVEN. But they will ALSO say, the GARDEN is PARADISE… Then they will go onto say when Jesus spoke to the thief on the Cross “today you will be with me in PARADISE” Jesus was speaking of Heaven. So which is it people. You can’t agree with something and then disagree in the same breath.
James 3:12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
Let’s take a look at what the SERPENT said to EVE. And remember the SERPENT lied from the BEGINNING. He was more subtle (devious) than any other creature.
Satan said to EVE, “If you eat of this tree YOU SHALL BE LIKE GOD” –
This is the LIE SATAN plants in EVE’S head. So EVE ate and then gave to ADAM. This is actually the same lie SATAN plants in our head. Trying to convince us, that we are in control, that we are separate from God, kings of our own castle, which is actually (God’s temple/our soul/body)
God warned ADAM that the instant you eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, YOU SHALL DIE. (Death/Carnal Thoughts/Lies/Sin)
ADAM, was God’s most beautiful creation. Was he NOT? Doesn’t that sound like what people teach about LUCIFER, they say, “God’s most beautiful.” But does it ever get more beautiful than being made in the IMAGE OF GOD?
Well, if Lucifer be ADAM, than that is true. “To which of the angels did God say, you are my beloved Son”
Is there a more beautiful and glorified creation of God than MANKIND, which is the express image of God? I think not.
Before the FALL (Remember Lucifer fell in the garden).
Before the fall, Adam was one with God. Adam knew the TRUTH. Adam was God’s most beautiful creation, UNTIL he decided that he could be LIKE GOD, and he ate, because he said in his heart… “I shall be like the most high, knowing good from evil”
This is the description given in Isaiah of LUCIFER… But isn’t this exactly what ADAM did. Didn’t he EAT, to fruit of the KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL.
Notice in the Garden, the SERPENT (clearly Satan) did not fall. He tempted Eve (drew Eve away with her own lusts) and murdered ADAM in the process… IN THE BEGINNING of creation, mind you. (Satan, a murderer from the beginning)
The MORNING STAR has NEVER BEEN SATAN. The MAN who was to be the SHINING IMAGE OF GOD, exalted HIMSELF and said, I will eat of the Tree that will Make Me God — And so ADAM DIED.
And now the WORLD SUFFERS because of this CARNALITY, and when we look upon this ADAMIC nature do we not say, “This is the MAN that caused the nations such trouble?”
In Isaiah, the MAN that caused all of us such trouble is NOT Satan, it is ADAM.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
ADAM(Lucifer) is the MAN that caused the NATIONS such trouble. NOT SATAN. Satan, by now, it should be clear, is NOT A MAN.
ADAM = LUCIFER, MAN, FALLEN
SATAN = WASTER, DESTROYER, FATHER OF LIES, TEMPTER, SPIRIT
Let me share the scriptural comparison side by side to illustrate further WHO REALLY fell in the Garden.
LUCIFER (ADAM)
How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, you who weakened the nations! For you have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’ Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, to the lowest depths of the Pit.”
LUCIFER (ADAM) a MAN in the Garden who wanted to be like God, and ended up in DEATH.
ADAM
4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as god, knowing good and evil.
There is the rub. Right there in Genesis. Then look at the next verse to back it up.
6And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Right there: The Lust of the eyes, Lust of the Flesh, Pride of Life (The Lusts that draw us away)
23Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24So he drove out the man (ADAM/LUCIFER); and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
LUCIFER – DRIVEN OUT OF HEAVEN, brought down to the ground and death.
ADAM – driven OUT OF HEAVEN, brought down to till the ground in death.
Lucifer = Adam
“Jesus said, Satan was a murderer from the beginning”
ADAM was killed by SATAN’S TRICKERY. = THE first MURDER, God did say, the moment you eat of this tree… you shall die.
Now let’s look at what Satan really wants:
It has been taught that Satan hates man, because God made them and SATAN was jealous. That Satan is out to get us. The truth is however, Satan does NOT HATE MAN, quite the opposite, Satan LOVES MAN, HE ONLY LOVES THE THINGS OF MAN.
This is why, Man is a LIAR. You see, Satan is not some spooky monster and demonic creature in some cosmic battle for the souls of man.
a) Look at the Old Testament, Satan has a great purpose and does only what God wants. He can only test Job when God allows it. God actually points out Job for Satan to tempt.
b) Jesus tells Satan WHEN to do what HE MUST DO.
c) God sent MESSENGERS OF SATAN to put the THORN in PAUL’S FLESH. God is IN CONTROL.
Anyone who thinks God is not large and in charge does not know the TRUTH.
Now here is what Satan actually cares about, Satan cares ONLY about “The things of man.”
Jesus said, “get thee behind me Satan, thou carest only the THINGS OF MAN.”
According to the book of Numbers, “God is NOT A MAN that HE SHOULD LIE.” You see MAN LIES. God does not. Let GOD BE TRUE and EVERY MAN a liar.
And WHO is the FATHER OF ALL LIES pulling the strings behind the scenes? That’s right SATAN. The SPIRIT of SATAN. He is the FATHER OF ALL LIES, in SATAN there is no truth and never has there been.
So why did God create this SATAN?
Well, God created the waster to destroy, the serpent goes about on his belly (carnality) eating dust (lies/imagination = dead flesh).
God put enmity between SATAN and EVE’S SEED (Christ) – There is a war between them. And does not scripture also say, “the FLESH is at enmity with THE SPIRIT”
Seeing a trend yet?
Satan = Lies, Lust, Flesh, Cares only about the things of MAN
Are you catching on yet? Are you starting to see, what, and who, SATAN REALLY IS?
When you listen to the SERPENT (Satan) – YOU DIE. = To be Carnally Minded is DEATH.
SATAN in other words, is another name for MAN’S CARNAL MIND. Not some spooky horned beast with a whip ruling the pits of hell… When you listen to the CARNAL MIND, you DIE.
Your DEATH is the suffering you experience when you listen and believe the lies this SATAN(Your OWN lusts) tempt you with. And, it is ONLY THE TRUTH that SETS YOU FREE. (Christ)
So why would God, create such a SPIRIT. The answer is to TEST YOU and TRY YOU.
Isaiah 48:10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.
God chose the furnace of affliction. But our present sufferings will be compared as nothing, when the truth of who we are in Christ is revealed.
You see, even SATAN has a purpose. Don’t believe me? Then ask yourself why the apostles would willingly turn over unbelievers to SATAN so their spirit would be saved.
1 Corinthians 5:5: … hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord.
Satan ACTUALLY helps in the destruction of the sinful nature in man. By trying and testing Man, so he knows the difference between Satan’s lies and Christ’s truth.
SATAN has a great purpose, if you don’t listen to the SHEPARD, the SHEEPDOG will bark and bite and scare you until you do!
Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
This is how we know truth from lies. The Truth sets us free and blesses us with peace, joy, and righteousness. The LIES cause pain, suffering, hell (ignorance and confusion). Ultimately we learn the difference. And we free ourselves from the bondage of Lucifer’s/ADAM’S fall and enter into the Liberty of Christ.
Now here is the good news in all of this!
God created ALL THINGS and called them GOOD. All things! We may not understand why things are the way they are. But we do know, God works everything together for those that LOVE THE LORD. (TRUTH) We know God makes EVERYTHING BEAUTIFUL in ITS TIME. And that TIME may be different for everyone. But that judgment (seperation from the LIES) starts at the HOUSE OF GOD (our soul).
The most important thing to remember people is God does not have an adversary, as some might say. WE DO! And that adversary, is the CARNAL LIES INSIDE MAN (Satan).
Ephesians 4:22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
Jesus said, “get thee behind me SATAN, THOU only carest about the things of MAN”
Man is a LIAR, Christ is the TRUTH.
We need to resist the DEVIL (the negative thoughts/LUSTS/Lies being fed to us by that snake (Carnal MIND) in the garden and he will flee.
In closing, I hope you can see, Lucifer is simply another name for ADAM (The fallen Carnal Man) and SATAN is the CARNAL MIND that FED his Soul (Eve) and brought about “their” demise.
Jacob
“The Truth Changes Everything”
JACOB'S LADDER 
You’re my hero. I love you bro. It’s nice to know that I’m not crazy.
Are you a gnostic or kabbalist? You sound like them that’s why I ask
So sorry I’m just now seeing this … I don’t really have a label
Jacob, you have no idea how much this article has liberated me. I have been battling my inner demons for a long time now and have just recently been challenging them and seeing the light. To know that I am in control and who exactly Satan & Lucifer are, is doing wonders for my mental state. I feel like I can finally breathe and smile again after reading this and I have been through one spiritual battle after another for the last several years. So yeah this article being liberating is not an understatement. I wish I could shake your hands in real life. Continue to be brave and keep on going.
That is Awesome Sera! I am so glad it meant something to you. Much love to you and yourd
A vesper is near ❤
Love this Jacob!
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this piece. I have been personally struggling for sometime with my faith. I know inherently what I believe in but embarrassingly this has wavered with the advent of watching so many conspiracy theory shows about the illuminati and the n.w.o. I began to consider the idea that they new something I didn’t and this began to lead me away from what I had always believed. I have done alot of reading over the past several weeks and coming across your work today has definitely clarified and reaffirmed my original believe in God and Jesus. Thank you again Jacob.
Craig, you aren’t the only one who has had your faith tested, the reason we are tried and tested is so we are found pure and not wanting… “Consider not the fiery trial”, rejoice and again I say rejoice… THE TRUTH sets us free from the lies we have believed. Don’t beat yourself up for anything you have believed or not believed, just love and know love my man. Peace to you and yours, Jacob… Please do keep in touch.
I really enjoyed reading your essay…..What an eye opener
So glad you liked it Daniel! Have the best weekend ever friend. jacob
Thanks Jacob, for posting this, i feel it’s right from our Father,
So glad you liked it Daniel! I have a lot of other essays on here, feel free to go to the “more Essay” category bar on the right hand side of the screen, toward the top and look around. much love to you and yours, Jacob
I thought you made your point well Jacob, by the time I got to “working out in the gym” LOL but of course I already agreed with you! Your article is comprehensive and well-studied. Good job!
Thanks Tony, so glad you enjoyed it and I appreciate that you took the time to comment. Much love man!
good read thanks for sharing Jacob!!
good read
i loved the way you break this down bro. jacob… we know god is omnipotent and the fullness of god was in that flesh man jesus without measure.. just before this temptation took place god spoke from his temple [ son ] and said he was well pleased to dwell in his son… the spirit without measure.. then he was led up into a place of learning by the spirit within him… this great warfare which i guess we call armegeddon took place right in the mind.. the flesh had already been pushed to a state of strength through fasting… so the warfare in the mind could be pushed to the limit.. yes he was tempted in all ways as we are, without sin.. yes the spirit led him to this temptation.. the tempter, the devil here.. seems to me it was the ego nature which was part of him that had to be completely destroyed..fasting had brought it to its peak performance, sounds blasphemous doesnt it.
Right on David, it’s nice to know God is in control of it all and it is the very same thing we all go through. Much love man, Jacob
For many years I have always asked those who go to these so-called churches who are taught there is a literal satan from the time they were a child, to show him to me this satan they believe in that I want to see him. To this day no one has shown me a literal satan and the answer I get from everyone of them is “Oh brother satan is going to be cast out of heaven in the near future as written in the book of Revelation.
Again I ask them to show me where the book of Revelation is a book of future events. Thats when you get the deer in the head light look from them. Most people who are wrapped up in religion are taught the bible is about the past and future having no clue the Fathers word is this very moment. All those who are wrapped up in religion are taught Jesus died when this is a lie. Jesus did not die He lived that we all may live. Most people have no understanding only the flesh body returns to the ground in which it came and even that statement is has a deeper spiritual meaning.
Those who are wrapped up in these religions are taught the book of Revelation teaches of future events and this is a lie as well such as the teaching Jesus is going to return as if He were on vacation or something. These people have no clue saying they have Jesus in their heart and believe He is going to return from some place how they do error because you can’t have something if you are waiting on it to arrive.
Great Essay Jabob
Hi John. Maybe it helps to have a look at this passage in Romans 7. Paul points out what he finds to be the problem in his life, and it’s not an external devil:
14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.
So it’s the ‘sinful nature’ that seems to be the problem, the cause of our ‘sin’. It might also help to ubderstand that word for ‘satan’ and ‘devil’ are not names of a being, but words that mean ‘adversary’ and ‘the accuser’. It’s not hard to find who this adversary and accuser in us is: it’s that voice that keeps on rambling and commentating on everything in your life, and which seems to always disagree with how things are (truth), wanting to change things according to it’s own will.
As far as demons.. well i think in a biblical sense they point to things in our mind that cause us big problems, but Jacob can explain that a lot better than i can.
People interpret things according to their level of understanding. A Chrisyian who sees something strange will be more inclinded to ‘see’ what he calls a demon, whereas people from other cultures might call it a ‘Jinn’, or whatever it is their culture and level of understanding provides for as a frame of reference. In that respect, i think it would be interesting to have a look at the work of Ken Wilber, who has made a pretty interesting chart of the spiritual landscape.
Enjoy!
Peter loved the way you responded and shared. Thank your comments are always very welcome here! I will check out Ken myself! Jacob
So you’re basically saying that God made us all schizophrenics?
It didn’t say God formed man and breathed into his nostrils and man became a living soul and then God put Satan into our brains to try and test you.
What about people who see demons? I even seen them when I was a teenager. Was I just dropping acid? Doing some crazy, freaky drugs? Um, no and no. I guess God was trying to try and test me.
I’m not saying Satan is some devil horned, red beats either, but apparently something is real or people wouldn’t experience such things as demons or so-called alien abductions(which is not real) Or Ghosts which does not exist either.
Then what are people, including myself experienced? Are we just weirdos? I don’t and haven’t experienced it since I was a teen, but there has to be an explanation, unless God is just playing tricks on everyone, which I truly doubt.
Do I believe that devils are our carnal nature? Yes, I have been taught this and it is obvious true, but something else is also at play when things happen such as seeing Demons.
I mean to say,.. You tha man J. Love the article.
You that Man J
I think you’ve got it man. Makes perfect sense to me.
i glanced over your writing here about Lucifer and Satan… but i believe they are the same… i agree with you that Lucifer (or Satan) was Adam…if i understand correctly you are saying that Satan is a spirit… i believe in one spirit… which is God… which spirit (or breath)is in every man (mankind)…i do not believe there are spirits of demons and devils… but they are the imagination of the carnal mind…( 1 timothy 4-1, 11 timothy 4-4, Titus 1-14,) i don’t agree with some things of others… and they don’t with me… but we all are growing… so that is why we all don’t see eye to eye… i still like to read your writings… god bless… sister Joyce
That was an interesting read indeed.
Lucifer actually means ‘Morning Star’, and as far as i can see the morning start is that which God intended for us to be. We are to be those who annaounce the coming of the ‘new day’, the full light of the ‘sun’.
Here are a few verses where the morning star is mentioned:
Job 38: 6 On what were its footings set,
or who laid its cornerstone-
7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels shouted for joy?
2 Peter 1:19 And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
rev 2:25Only hold on to what you have until I come. 26To him who overcomes and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations—
27’He will rule them with an iron scepter;
he will dash them to pieces like pottery'[b]— just as I have received authority from my Father. 28I will also give him the morning star
rev 22:16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
Now of course the word that was translated to Lucifer in the KJ is the very same word that’s translated to Morning Star elsewhere. And we cansee that Jesus calls Himself the Morning Star in revelation. That should tell you something about what and who the Morning Star is. The first Adam was supposed to be the Morning Star, the carrier of the light, but he fell. Jesus is the first functional Morning Star, so to speak, and sets the pattern for many that will follow 🙂
Well, that’s kindof how i see it now.. if anyone else sees it different, i’d like to find out.
Any good dictionary will inform us that “Lucifer” is merely a Latin word for the planet Venus, the morning star. In fact, the word “Lucifer” was not even in the scripture until St. Jerome translated the Hebrew book of Isaiah into Latin. The Hebrew word “heylel” (H1966) means “morning star”, which is why most all modern translations do not even use the word “Lucifer” at all, but instead render it as “morning star” or “day star”. It is worth noting here that the ancient Babylonians worshipped the morning star “Helel” as a god, who was the son of “Shahar” (the Babylonian “god of the dawn”). Let’s now read Isaiah 14:12 with the Hebrew words left untranslated:
“How art thou fallen from heaven, O HELEL, son of SHAHAR! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”
Now when we consider the beliefs of the audience, we can now understand what is going on here. Isaiah is prophesying against the proud Babylonian king, and is comparing him to the Babylonian god Helel, and informing him that, just as when the morning star loses its brilliance when overshadowed by the rising sun, he too will lose his pomp and splendor when he is cast down to the grave.
The Interpreter’s Bible, Vol. 5 (pp. 262-3) provides confirmation of this:
//The use in these verses of material derived from Canaanite myths is unmistakable, and the point is made that the meaning of what the tyrant has done is set forth in the myth of Helal, the Day Star, or “Lightgiver” (cf. Vulg. “Lucifer”), son of Shahar, or Dawn. It is a manifestation on earth of the ultimate conflict set forth in the myth in timeless terms. We know that there was a god Shahar in Canaanite (Ugaritic) mythology, the god of the dawn, or of the morning star, and “Helal son of Shahar” is mentioned apparently in one of the texts from the Ugarit. Another clearly mythological element is the mount of assembly [of the gods] in the far north, the point around where the constellations turned, where was located the summit of the heavenly mountain and the throne of the Most High (Ezekiel 28:14). The passage before us preserves the Canaanite form of a nature myth, telling of the attempt of the morning star to scale the heights of heaven, surpassing all other stars, only to be cast down to the earth by the victorious sun. This became in turn the story of the aspiring of a minor deity to reach the highest heaven where the supreme god dwelt in remote and lonely splendor, and finally the symbol of the ambition and downfall of an earthly monarch. He who has climbed so high will be cast down to the depths, or better, “the uttermost depths” of the Pit of Sheol.//
The Collegeville Bible Commentary, (p. 426) agrees:
//The taunt-song against the king of Babylon is famous for its comparison with “Lucifer, Son of the Dawn.” The comparison is drawn from an ancient Canaanite myth, where Attar, the Daystar, tries to occupy the throne of Baal. The pattern of the story is a very popular one in the Bible. Whoever tries to rise too high will be cast down lowest of all. The same pattern can be found in Ezekiel 27 & 28. By contrast, the pattern is inverted in the case of Jesus, according to Philippians 2. Because He did not deem equality with God something to be grasped at, He received a name above every other name. The model of Lucifer can obviously be applied to many figures in history besides the king of Babylon. (Lucifer in this context is simply the Daystar, a heavenly being, but is not identified as Satan. This model, however, played a part in the popular legend of the fall of Satan from heaven, which was developed by John Milton in Paradise Lost.)//
What you said about Lucifer & Satan has opened the door of light to me! I have never believed a Satan or Lucifer was EVER God’s equal or opponent! But you saw, in the Bible verses, what “I” missed! I can’t believe I was so blind! I have been against the idea of anyone or thing being God’s equal but never could find the verses that would back me up. So thank you so much Jacob! And it makes total sense that Adam would be Lucifer, a human, & Satan, the bad negative thoughts in our head that we can’t let ourselves listen to. Again you have helped me. You are so insightful. God has truly touched you to spread the truth that’s been hidden so long by the church!
I always enjoy reading the writings of someone I have personally spoken with, and who I am able to presently communicate with…how wonderful it would be to know and communicate with the author of Genesis. In the absence of that ability, I continue to read and interpret all writings from the conclusion I currently hold about the Truth of Our existence here in the middle of infinity…that cosmic battle in the Minds in human flesh is whether or not there is death, and what we will decide on that question and therefore set the backdrop of this scriptless play in eternity!
Very, Very interesting and insightful study. I will have to say I have studied this truth about Satan and the Devil before and even wrote some about it myself. But this is by far the most thorough and well thought-out I have read. Also very timely being Halloween. I think I should recommend this reading through my twitter and facebook accounts. I will post a link on them to this much needed essay today – hey that rhymes!.
Good stuff bro!
Peace,
Dennis