Now I wasn’t planning to write an essay for awhile, but on my recent trip I couldn’t help but feel like a stranger in a strange land. So many wonderful people surrounding me, yet so very few that I was inspired to speak to about higher things. But what would a Sunday for me at home be without rolling up my sleeves and tackling another majorly controversial (howbeit true) topic. Hope the title got your attention, because there is more attention that will come, I pray.

On my recent trip I asked many “christians” who go to church, work for their church, attend bible study, etc, etc, just what they are saved from? And what is Salvation? And sadly, not one had a good answer to give. Truly many don’t understand salvation, in regards to the HERE AND NOW. Which is what salvation is.

Luke 19:9 And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham.

You are NOT saved from some future terrible torture, (see my article “To Hell with Hell.” NO! You are saved from the life you are living, you are saved from Yourself/hell. Your Ego and all the bells and whistles of pain and suffering that goes along with it. Now the question many will ask, is why haven’t these people found the TRUTH of God. (Christ) – More to the point, what is the Truth? And why haven’t they found it.

Well there is a great story in scripture that spells it out. (They are looking in the wrong place) You see, so many who are SEEKING JESUS among their Kinsfolk (friends, congregations, bible studies etc.)

Luke 2:44 But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day’s journey; and they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance.

And yet, when they REALLY wanted to find the WAY and the TRUTH, it wasn’t there.

45And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him.

You will NEVER find the truth among your friends, family, congregations, etc… you will NOT find the TRUTH until you TURN BACK AGAIN toward JERUSALEM which is HEBREW means “TEACHING OF PEACE” – You cannot and WILL NOT find the TRUTH OF WHO YOU ARE IN CHRIST, at your religious halls, in your bible studies, mosques, or man made temple’s… You will NOT find the TRUTH there at all. You will need to RETURN to the TEACHING OF PEACE, and go WITHIN (the Temple = YOUR HEART) to find Christ.

Luke 2:46 And it came to pass, that after THREE days they found him in the TEMPLE, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.

There we see that number THREE again (Tri-Mester) A period of time before the child (CHRIST) is born IN YOU, from you. – This is the sign of Jonah, three days in the BELLY (WOMB) of the earth (MAN’S SOUL)… Just like all of that, after THREE DAYS Joseph and Mary FIND CHRIST. And where do they find Christ? (Their Child)

Isaiah 9:6 – For unto us a child is born,

We find this CHILD (CHRIST) their JESUS in the TEMPLE of God (Which is us).

Many may wonder why we, and they, couldn’t find the TRUTH (Christ) among their Kinfolk, in their churches and Temple’s and Mosque’s or Kingdom Halls, etc… Well, the reason is God’s ways are above man’s and you will never FIND the TRUTH among other men and women.


Luke 2:48,49 48And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. 49And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business?

Like Mary and Joseph, many “religious” folk. Will not understand why they couldn’t find the TRUTH in the high places of Mankind like Religion. So many cry out in their man made Churches, seeking Christ, begging for Christ, and yet they cannot find Christ. The reason is you will never FIND THE LIVING AMONG THE DEAD!

THE religious world is NOT about God’s business they are about church business, and for many, business it is booming! However, when you leave all that mess and return to Jerusalem (the teaching of Peace) you will find Christ, IN THE TEMPLE (Within You) – “the hope of Glory which is Christ In You” and you will learn, the reason you could NOT find Christ in those religious circles is because Christ is ALWAYS about the FATHER’S BUSINESS.

And what is the FATHER’S BUSINESS you ask? – Well God is in the IMAGE MAKING business, getting us to lay down our (carnal life in Adam) so we can take our TRUE LIFE back up.

John 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

God’s will is for ALL MANKIND to be SAVED. And nothing stops God’s will. This is the FATHER’S business.

Ephesians 1:8-10 8Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; 9Having made known unto us the MYSTERY OF HIS WILL, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: 10That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one ALL things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

He is going to gather everything TOGETHER in HIS TRUTH and SPIRIT(Christ) we will ALL come to full stature of the perfect man. And nothing can stop the Father’s WILL.

Ephesians 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

Now I know what many of you are thinking… WE HAVE CHOICE! And I am NOT going to say we don’t. But I will say, that OUR choices will ALWAYS bring us back to God’s will come HELL or HEAVEN! This is what Reaping and Sowing is all about. When you follow the shepherd (Christ) our journey is pleasant, if we fall of path that sheepdog (Satan) will bite our rear ends and put us back in line.

And if we fall off the path enough times, the Shepherd may even break our leg and carry us for awhile, until we learn never to do it again. You see God works ALL things according to his plan and purpose, our CREATOR is IN CONTROL and this should give us hope. It takes the pressure is OFF US, we are no longer under the law of works but the grace of FAITH. And with FAITH we CANNOT FAIL. Because out of all the FATHER GAVE THE SON TO SAVE, the CHRIST INSIDE US ALL, has LOST NOT ONE!

2 Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

It has nothing to do with our works but God’s purpose and will, which is the ONLY THING CHRIST IS ABOUT! Bringing us all to that PLACE (the Kingdom of God) = Righteousness, Peace, and Joy, and power in the Holy Ghost. Ultimately, God is bringing us all to the same place, CHRIST (Beccoming his ANNOINTED ONE, his ONLY BEGOTTEN). Not a birth of Flesh and Blood from of SPIRIT.

John 1
13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

You see there is ONLY ONE SPIRIT, BAPTISM, LORD, AND GOD. ONE, not several as so many believe. Where many of us see Bob, Helen, Charlotte, and Larry, God only see’s CHRIST – his finished CREATION, WHICH despite what many religious leaders state, will be finished in VICTORY! “ALL OF CREATION WILL SING GOD’S PRAISES”

There is ONLY ONE IMAGE OF GOD. Humanity! “LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE!” – “Christ the express IMAGE OF GOD.”

Oh yes, we are either DEAD (ignorant) in ADAM or ALIVE (Enlightened) in CHRIST. We too are both, the 1st and the LAST.

1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The FIRST man Adam was made a living soul; the LAST Adam was made a quickening spirit.

The first MAN is a living SOUL (Jacob) the last MAN is a QUICKENING SPIRIT (CHRIST). You see when Jesus said, I am the First and the Last, he understood, he was both ADAM and JESUS.

I also, am the FIRST and the LAST, you are as well. We ALL are the FIRST AND THE LAST.

There is ONLY ONE SON of God (Israel). The first STATE of that ONE MAN is DEAD and the second state is ALIVE.

Revelation 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

I know this is a hard saying for many of you. You don’t see Jesus as being Adam as well, MUCH LESS as seeing JESUS AS YOURSELF… 🙂

But CLEARLY, Jesus was DEAD and is ALIVE. And, CLEARLY, this is our story as well. We are no different. For…

1 Corinthians 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

We have to stop looking at this Jesus character from thousands of years ago as the SAVIOR of the WORLD, and stop putting our faith in a MAN from thousands of years ago who died, who was but a PATTERN for us…

1 Timothy 1:16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a PATTERN to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

We have to STOP putting our faith in PAST EVENTS. As what is behind us, does NOT PROFIT US.

Philippians 3:13
Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

It’s time to FORGET what is BEHIND US, and REACH for what is before us, ETERNAL LIFE (Knowing God the Father and CHRIST IN US)

We MUST put our FAITH in the SON OF GOD within, that DIED for us (So we could become Jacob, Bob, Helen, and Ruth) and now we die to our EGO’S so CHRIST (Our true Identity) can live. And NOTHING can seperate us from becoming CHRIST. – Don’t misunderstand me, God does the work however, we simply go along for the ride. 🙂 If we are IN HIS REST. And like I said, NOTHING shall prevent God’s will (to have all be saved)

Romans 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Now I know many of you do not want to believe, that you TOO are the SON/DAUGHTER of God, the ONLY BEGOTTEN of God. However, to believe that you are NOT THE ONLY BEGOTTEN OF GOD is to DENY the TRUTH/GOD. So if people seeing and talking with you, and you are RISEN in CHRIST, they they are actually talking to and seeing Christ.

Matthew 10:40
He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

This is why we should not DENY this great mystery which has been hidden. CHRIST IN YOU, AS YOU, IS YOU. Instead, DENY who you THINK YOU ARE.

Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

My Friend Larry (Uriah) and I had a nice talk about what it means to DENY yourself. For many years, many have believed this meant to DEPRIVE yourself, but that is NOT WHAT THE WORD DENY means.

The definition of the word DENY is as follows: “to declare untrue” When we are told to DENY our “SELF” we are actually being told, to DENY that “who we think we are” actually exists.

DENY your EGO, it isn’t real. IT IS UNTRUE.

After we do this then we TAKE UP THE CROSS (we move from IGNORANCE TO ENLIGHTENMENT/LIFE) So if we DENY (declare untrue) OURSELVES/HELL, then all that is left is CHRIST. (God’s son) OUR TRUE LIFE.

Colossians 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

The word APPEAR is translated from the Hebrew as this: to make manifest or visible or known what has been hidden or unknown, to manifest, whether by words, or deeds, or in any other way

Now why must we believe that we are CHRIST? … And Members in particular? Because if you are NOT THE SON/DAUGHTER than you cannot know God. And you cannot be SAVED! Now does God see us this way? Well YES, God does.

2 Corinthians 2:15 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:

But if you were to tell another human being. That in fact they ARE JESUS CHRIST, meaning, they are NO DIFFERENT, than Christ. They would flip out, but the truth is, IF THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT CHRIST IS REVEALED IN THEM/US, than they are ANTI-CHRIST (opposite the truth) – They haven’t DENIED themselves.

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come (revealed/manifested) in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

On my trip, I was very sad to see so few OF MY PEERS who desired to know God and the mysteries of the Kingdom. Everyone was so consumed with the bump and grind of the cares of the world that they hadn’t even bothered to take the time, to think of those things which TRULY MATTER.

There was a time when I was younger in my faith when I would witness to everyone, I didn’t care what any thought OF WHAT I SAID, and like Moses I was killing the Egyptians left and right. I too shared things with people that just weren’t ready. I was carnally doing what God was preparing to be spiritually done. It is true that God has perfected praise in the young (immature to their faith), but they are still babes and as excited as they are to share the deeper things of God, they must first mature to understand it. And they must have those growing pains, and man do they hurt.

We forget it is through much tribulation that we enter the kingdom of God, we forget, like the man Jesus we must take up our Cross (death to self) to enter into life. We must come to the place that PAUL came, DENYING PAUL… where he said. “It is no LONGER I PAUL that LIVE, but Christ.”

Now I want to be clear, there is Only One way to enter. Those who enter the sheep gate, the same become the shephard of the sheep. (Christ) No one knows the Father but the Son. So in order to know God you must be the Son (Gods only begotten).

Now when I share Who we really are, most people freak out. They refuse it. They will not accept the truth of who they are, because that Truth is in a far away country. Out of sight (understanding) out of mind. And when this truth is presented it is met with anger, hate, betrayal, and worse. Because the Anti Christ (your Ego) believes he or she really exists.

Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names (Natures/greed/lust/pride/etc) were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Our EGO is that BEAST. Ecclesiates calls men BRUTE BEASTS. the Beasts’ number is 666, the NUMBER OF MAN. You see, who you think you are, exists and yet doesn’t EXIST. It is simply who you THINK you are. It will only exist as long as you don’t DENY it’s very existence, which is a LIE to begin with.

Cane Killed Abel. This CARNAL nature IN us, wants to be REAL, and it will put down the TRUTH, but that is for but a moment. The first man, (which we all are, as well as the last) is always a KILLER. You’ll notice the first born in scripture Adam, Cane, Ishmael, Esau, etc, alway deal in death. They are hunters, seeking whom they may kill and then devour.

However, the second nature of man, the second born, Christ, Abel, isaac, Jacob who becomes Israel is Always a shephard. In the first ignorant nature of mankind there is death, this death is lived out in the external and temporal things of the world. But the second Goes Within. It’s life is found inside MANKIND. Their true LIFE is in fact CHRIST. I know for many, this still may be hard to believe but let us take a look at Gal 3 and 4.

Gal 3 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

You see, there is no more Jacob, Tim, Joanne, and Bertha… there is only ABRAHAMS SEED. Now, we see many, but scripture clearly states, there is but ONE SEED.

16Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is CHRIST.

Easy to see, that ABRAHAMS SEED is CHRIST. Now watch this… let’s read on a bit and see what this says about you and me and everyone else in the world.

29And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Now if you be CHRIST’S than you are ABRAHAMS’ SEED (christ). Here let me put this plainly, if CHRIST is REVEALED to you, within you, than you ARE CHRIST. No ifs ands or buts about it. Yeah, try sharing that if you are Catholic, Lutheran, or in any other church… This is the MESSIAH the JEWS were waiting for… IMMANUEL – GOD WITH/IN/AS YOU.

Now, don’t try and go and carnally tell the world you are Jesus, because that is NOT the TRUTH. You need to DENY who you THINK YOU ARE, die to your SELF, and CHRIST will THEN BE REVEALED. When you realize that your EGO NATURE (WHO YOU THINK YOU ARE) is actaully the SON OF PERDITION, that WHO YOU THINK YOU ARE, is actually the ANTICHRIST sitting on the THRONE OF GOD (YOUR MIND AND HEART) – then AND only then, can the TRUTH be REVEALED about who you REALLY ARE IN CHRIST, and it will destroy WHO YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE, and then my friends, you will know what it means to be saved! And to be a SON/DAUGHTER.

Now, to finish this essay off right, I want to show you how sharing this revelation can be met in not the nicest of ways –

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

You see NO ONE is going to HEAVEN (ENLIGHTENMENT) but the ONE who CAME DOWN… There is only ONE (humanity) – We are the SON OF MAN and the SON OF GOD…. WE ARE. We are as the Prophet Obediah said, the SAVIORS OF THE WORLD.

Obediah 1 21And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD’s.

So what Jacob? Are you saying we are ALL CHRIST? — Well if you are the body of Christ. You are given the name of Christ. And you have the Mind of Christ…. Who are you?

Now I understand this is a hard saying, but I want to show you in scripture how (there is nothing new under the sun) and since they rejected Jesus for saying he is the Son of God, many will reject you for saying the same. But be of good courage, for as CHRIST in YOU has overcome the world (carnal mind and it’s lusts) so shall we all. So when listening to Luke 22 some things shot out at me…. I began to see that this chapter, like so many chapters spoke more about me, than it did about some people who have long been dead and buried.

Scripture is better applied to our lives today as sons and daughters of God, and as a united people who have finally come out of the darkness and shouted into the light the Hope of Glory. So let’s start shall we?

Luke 22
1Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.

Leaven is used to Puff something up, since we are the Bread/body of Christ this takes on a whole new meaning. We are told a little leaven, leavens the whole lump, and to beware the Leaven (lies/pride) of the Pharasees. So here we are entering into a day where the body of believers will no longer be filled with these lies. It is called the Passover because “death” is passing over us. During this season we will no longer be ruled by the carnal leaven of religion. But this is a season that is still to come for some. And a scary day this will be for the religious leaders of the land.

2And the chief priests and scribes sought how they might kill him; for they feared the people.

When the truth of who we are (CHRIST) is revealed, it threatens the religious system that is in place. People today are hungrier now to experience God and to know the Truth than I can remember. And when the winds (doctrines) change from being filled with leaven/lies/vanity/pride to humility and love, the religious leaders will be scared that they may lose their bank roll and so-called ministry, because at the Passover no one goes to temple, each man is to sacrafice and worship in His own house.

Now if word got out that mankind didn’t need religion, and that each would be enlightened to the truth of who they are without any effort on their behalf, we would say buh bye Babylon and hello Kingdom.

3Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot(meaning great man or masculine – Man of Kerioth), being of the number of the twelve. 4And he went his way, and communed with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray him unto them.

Now first let me get rid of this false belief that SATAN was some spirit outside of Judas and literally entered him. The word ENTERED is translated as “of thoughts that come into the mind” – So really, this THOUGHT arose from WITHIN. As Jesus said, “Nothing going into a man defiles him”… Yes that serpent is hanging in your garden (your soul)… So this thought arose inside JUDAS to deny AND betray the TRUTH, as opposed to DENYING HIMSELF.

Even reading this paper, there will be thoughts rising inside SOME OF YOU, thinking about all your religious leaders have taught you. You may even go and speak to them about this, seeing how you may BETRAY this great truth. – You see JUDAS, was of the same tribe as Jesus, looked like Jesus, acted like Jesus, but he carried the money bag. In the beginning, the Kingdom’s teaching were accepted BY HIM, but once the Carnal Man (Judas) was threatened, and that he had to deny himself… he wanted nothing to do with that. AS MANY OF YOU READING THIS WILL AS WELL.

21But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table.

The One who BETRAYS the truth , is the same one the TRUTH is presented to. You see your Carnal Ego (who doesn’t really exist) will fight tooth and nail to hang unto the Field the Lord has given him. But when the TRUTH arises, they will seek to KILL IT, because to accept CHRIST AS LORD, is to accept that you are NO LONGER IN CONTROL.

1 Corinthians 4:4 For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.


48But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?

You see there are many here, who have greeted this TRUTH (with a kiss = accepting) but once CHRIST begins to move farther, they refuse. They don’t to stop worshipping the CREATURE (the man Jesus) as opposed to the Creator (Our Father and our Lord Christ Within, which is our life)

52Then Jesus said unto the chief priests, and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves?

You see there will come a time for all of us, where we will be rejected for coming to understand who we are. When once we were embraced and loved, soon we will be treated as THIEVES. ( a thief is someone who tries to get into the Kingdom another way) – They will call you heretic, liar, antichrist, but DON’T LOSE HOPE! For the day is here, when these things will be revealed. Nothing shall stop this mighty move of God. This is what the whole creation has been groaning for, the MANIFESTATION OF THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF GOD (the first and the last)

53When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

Even though CHRIST is within all, teaching and leading at a pace that God has set… If they ask you plainly…

67Art thou the Christ? tell us. And he said unto them, If I tell you, ye will not believe:

They will not believe the GREAT TRUTH of who we are. That in fact we are the SON/DAUGHTER of God. That JESUS was no different than any of us. “as he is so are we in this world”

2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

There will be many that will deny this great truth. But I say, turn them over to SATAN (thier own egotistical imagination) for the destruction of their flesh so their SPIRIT may be saved on the day of the Lord.

70Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am.

When we all realize we are the SAME, there will be no more war, famine, hate, disease, we will be FREE!

SO JACOB ARE YOU THE SON OF GOD? — Yes I am, and so are you! Deal with it. 🙂 Peace to you all.

24 thoughts on “ARE WE CHRIST?

  1. Paul November 23, 2011 / 4:13 PM

    Hi Vicki.
    Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ [which God sent].

    And he said,
    That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
    For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts,
    adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness,
    deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
    All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
    Mark 7:20-23

  2. vickirae57Vicki Rae Forney November 23, 2011 / 1:03 PM

    Hi, When the Truth and the Kingdom was revealved too me, it all came from the inside, nothing came from the outside of me, infact everything that was on the outside was very unpleasant to me. When God spoke to me, it came from the inside and he was so clear. I realized He speaks when my mind isn’t full of garabage I can’t hear him that way,, like I was doing laundry, or making a diner, my mind was more clear for me to hear Him. I have experienced Him through me, talking with others, I would be like wow that came out of me, or why did I say that, and that was just what that other person needed to hear at that time, it was so awesome. Vicki Rae

  3. Paul May 20, 2011 / 10:30 PM

    QUOTE from top left (immediately under the banner):

    To Climb This Ladder You Must Reach Higher And Let Go Of Every Rung Beneath You.

    Now lets compare with some things Jesus said again.

    Whosoever therefore
    shall break one of these least commandments,
    and shall teach men so,
    he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven:
    but whosoever shall do and teach them,
    the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
    For I say unto you,
    That except your righteousness shall exceed
    the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees,
    ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
    Matthew 5:19-20

    So it is by righteousness, that we shall ascend, and enter into heaven.

    Keep Jesus’ saying

    But seek ye first the kingdom of God,
    and His righteousness;
    and all these things shall be added unto you.
    Matthew 6:33

    Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord,
    shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;
    but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in heaven.
    Matthew 7:21

    He that hath My commandments,
    and keepeth them,
    he it is that loveth Me:
    and he that loveth Me
    shall be loved of My Father,
    and I will love him,
    and will manifest Myself to him.
    John 14:21

    For the righteous LORD loveth righteousness;
    His countenance doth behold the upright.
    Psalm 11:7

    Reach for the commandments 🙂

  4. Paul May 20, 2011 / 9:15 PM

    QUOTE from the sidebar:

    The child looks up to heaven and prays. He waits for an answer for many days. “How come I never hear from the one I love?” He yells to the clouds above…”Child,” said a man in blue. “If the answers are found up there the birds will have them before you. But with what is INSIDE there is nothing you cannot do. Never look for truth without, look within. Believing God is outside you is perhaps mans greatest sin.”

    Now a quote from JESUS:

    And He said,
    That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
    For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts,
    adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit,
    lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
    All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
    Mark 7:20-23

    Keep only Jesus sayings,
    and these are found in the holy scripture.

    All false notions arose within the hearts of humans,
    but the truth is written

    But if they had stood in My counsel,
    and had caused My people to hear My words,
    then they should have turned them from their evil way,
    and from the evil of their doings.

    And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more:
    for every man’s word shall be his burden;
    for ye have perverted the words of the living God,
    of the LORD of hosts our God.
    Jeremiah 23:36

    • jacobisrael71 May 21, 2011 / 7:41 AM


      The Kingdom of Heaven is WITHIN not without. The Hope of Glory if Christ In you, not outside of you coming again. Just remember man, you can pick things I write and claim them to be wrong, but God’s ways are above ours, so as I leave the possibility open that I have still so much to learn, so should you. Those who seek find, I say let’s seek together as brothers! And let God be true and every man a liar. No one has it all figured out, we know in part. But here is what I do know, if it is NOT LOVE it is not God. Remember in man there are two natures, the carnal and the Christ (power and wisdom of God) two natures one is taken one is left (cast away) – Put off that former conversation with that OLD MAN (CARNAL NATURE) – Within Mankind is the Hope of Glory, and yes within Carnal Man there is every wicked thing, until that which is not perfect is cast away. And I believe it will be. No point to vain debate as they say, but I wanted to at least address you and show you the love and respect that I would want shown to me “Do unto others as you want done to yourself” – This is why I avoid deleting people’s comments. I’m not going to try and win you over and prove what I write is true, that’s not my job, I simply share what I have been inspired to share wanting nothing in return. I hope if anything you can walk away from this knowing that a man, even when his beliefs are challenged doesn’t need to resort to name calling, condemnation, fear tactics, or mocking to respond. Only Good comes of good, so I pray to always be good, to even those that do not wish good upon me (not saying that is you)… In any event have an awesome day man. Jacob

  5. Paul May 20, 2011 / 8:18 PM

    Another thought for you to ponder.

    The Son of Man is Jacob’s Ladder.

    Bless Jesus

    And He saith unto him,
    Verily, verily, I say unto you,
    Hereafter ye shall see heaven open,
    and the angels of God ascending
    and descending upon the Son of man.
    John 1:51

  6. Paul May 20, 2011 / 8:09 PM

    Thank you, Jacob.

    It wasn’t a directed correction, but for those who have ears.

    Come is a simple word to understand, and shouldn’t need to be looked up in some old language. Plenty of places in the scripture Jesus explains plainly what He means by His coming. e.g. Ex 25:22, Duet 30, Mal 3, Jn 14:21

    I pray to the Holy Ghost for the meanings of God’s words.

    I have come across many who are into semantics, and mostly these seem to idolise their conclusions to be the truth, and God’s ways are well above them (but beneath them to do).

    I see the clouds of heaven as they appeared in Solomon’s temple, or as a whirlwind, and the Son of man comes like a lightning, which flashes from the East to the West. He is the Behemoth, whom God made with us, and sorrow turns to joy before Him. He is the Lord of the sabbath.

    I desired Jesus for real, and not just a notion in my head. I was in hell, and needed salvation now. Not a promise that may or may not come true after I died, which Christians offered me.

    My pleasure to speak with you also, brother Jacob. My surname is Israel too.

    Hallow the sabbaths

    And there I will meet with thee,
    and I will commune with thee
    from above the mercy seat,
    from between the two cherubims
    which are upon the ark of the testimony,
    of all things which I will give thee
    in commandment unto the children of Israel.
    Exodus 25:22

    Speak thou also unto the children of Israel,
    saying, Verily My sabbaths ye shall keep:
    for it is a sign between Me and you
    throughout your generations;
    that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
    Exodus 31:13

    • jacobisrael71 May 20, 2011 / 8:53 PM

      Paul, I think you’d enjoy some more of these articles. Dig in man, and please feel free to write back and tell me your thoughts. I look forward to it, there is a lot on here. So I am sure we may have plenty to write about. Peace to you and yours! Jacob

      • Paul May 20, 2011 / 10:08 PM

        Thank you, Jacob.

        I disagree with most of the notions which are idolised by Christians, so I would have a lot to write to 🙂

        This is not my preferred forum format though.

        To your suggestion to feed on your writings, I remind you what God rather commanded us.

        And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread;
        for in this selfsame day
        have I brought your armies out of the land of Egypt:
        therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations
        by an ordinance for ever.
        Exodus 12:17

        Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread,
        and in the seventh day shall be a feast to the LORD.
        Exodus 13:6

        Jesus is the Word of God,
        is the unleavened bread which came down from heaven

        For whosoever eateth the fat of the beast,
        of which men offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD,
        even the soul that eateth it
        shall be cut off from His people.
        Leviticus 7:25

  7. Paul May 19, 2011 / 10:04 PM

    Thank you, Jacob.

    It doesn’t seem to be such a mystery to me, that many say they are Christ, rather that say to believe Jesus Christ.

    Jesus predicted it. (Mtt 24:5)

    Just because I am offering a reproof, doesn’t mean I’m angry. I am merely performing the Lord’s commandment at Lev 19:17.

    I try to keep Jesus’ sayings, that I walk in God’s ways, as He commanded. Saying ‘His ways are above ours’ is a confession that you have not adopted His ways yet. Isn’t it?

    His ways are mine.

    It was through my striving to do all the commandments, and to walk in all God’s ways, that Jesus Christ manifested Himself unto me. He comes upon clouds of heaven, sitting at the right hand of power, with many angels and great glory.

    Praised be the Lord

    Ye shall walk in all the ways
    which the LORD your God hath commanded you,
    that ye may live,
    and that it may be well with you,
    and that ye may prolong your days
    in the land which ye shall possess.
    Deuteronomy 5:33

    Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments
    of the LORD thy God,
    to walk in His ways,
    and to fear Him.
    Deuteronomy 8:6

    He that hath My commandments, and keepeth them,
    he it is that loveth Me:
    and he that loveth Me
    shall be loved of My Father,
    and I will love him,
    and will manifest Myself to him.
    John 14:21

    • jacobisrael71 May 20, 2011 / 6:34 AM

      Paul, I’m glad your faith is so important to you man! And I am glad you came by and read one of my articles. And I didn’t take your comments as correction to me at all, you simply believe strongly about what you believe, and I feel the same, we only learn when people are open to discussing with each other and no feeling threatened by others beliefs. It is love that brings a multitude to repentance. You might want to look the word “come” up in the original language too, you may find it very cool that it means revealed or manifested. Referring to something hidden that has has is no revealed by taking away what was keeping it hidden. I see the clouds Christ comes in – as the great cloud of witnesses. He comes in the saints, with the saints, riding a white horse, as Lightning, in the clouds, there are many accounts of his “coming”. The hope of glory is Christ In You, that is most important thing. And all Christ is, is the “Power and Wisdom of God”, it means someone is annointed of God, I don’t think you’d have a problem with that. In any event man, thank you so much for your imput it’s good to have people open up and share where they are so other people reading can pray about it all. I pray we all want the same thing, to know the TRUTH, and to do God’s will. Much love man, Jacob

  8. Winnie May 17, 2011 / 11:24 PM

    I hear you so clearly, Jacob.Thank you brother.

  9. April 2, 2011 / 6:20 PM

    For many shall come in My name, saying, I am Christ;
    and shall deceive many.
    Matthew 24:5

    And He said,
    Take heed that ye be not deceived:
    for many shall come in My name, saying, I am Christ;
    and the time draweth near:
    go ye not therefore after them.
    Luke 21:8

    Jesus comes

    • jacobisrael71 April 2, 2011 / 6:34 PM

      Hey Paul, agreed… Jesus “comes” (revealed/manifested) – The word “COME” in greek, here is the word — “eµrxomai”
      Here is the meaning – metaph.
      to come into being, arise, come forth, show itself, find place or influence
      be established, become known, to come (fall) into or unto

      – Now this only makes sense, considering. CHRIST IN YOU is the hope of Glory. So for CHRIST TO COME, it HAS to COME from WITHIN. – Now let’s put it together.

      Christ comes into being in you, Christ arises in you, Christ comes forth in you, Christ shows itself in you, Christ finds place or influence in you, Christ is established in you, Christ becomes know in you —

      There are many decieving many, this is so true. This is why we MUST not go to man, but Go to God for answers. peace Paul and thanks for the comment. 🙂 Jacob

      • Paul May 18, 2011 / 1:03 AM

        Thank you also, Jacob.

        Personally, I have trouble reconciling Christ’s coming with men claiming they are the Christ.

        I believe Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ still, and those that claim they are Christ are self-deceiving still.

        When Jesus Christ came to me, He wasn’t you, nor Carl, nor anything like the many who claim to be “the body of Christ”.

        And for Christ to come, I had to believe what God says in the scripture, and do all His commandments.

        Christ comes on clouds.

        If ye abide in Me,
        and My words abide in you,
        ye shall ask what ye will,
        and it shall be done unto you.

        If ye keep My commandments,
        ye shall abide in My love;
        even as I have kept My Father’s commandments,
        and abide in His love.

        John 15:7

      • jacobisrael71 May 19, 2011 / 7:29 AM


        I think that’s what makes this “Mystery” so wonderful, we’re all seeking God to know where we fit. Many people see things differently and it’s okay to see things differently so long as anothers beliefs dont make you angry and attack them for what they believe to be true. Thanks for sharing your beliefs man, as I always say “God’s ways are above ours” so I always leave possibilities open to learn more. How did Christ come to you? Jacob

  10. Carl Dordelman November 5, 2010 / 10:13 AM

    “You must deny yourself and follow ME, (The I AM,the TRUE self.)”

    “For I AM CHRIST.”

    Are We Christ?
    Yes, we are, the Holy One of God, Our One and only Father.

  11. Karl June 2, 2010 / 12:53 AM

    wow…wow. I’m praying, I’m reading, I’m praying, I’m reading. Jacob and others, please be in agreement with me for the truths that the Holy Spirit would have me see…I really appreciate it. A lot to think about, and study here…but I’m definitely seeking truth and revelation…for why should I believe a lie…may any that are in or upon be broken. Enjoyed the reading…thanks! -Karl

  12. Constance Kynnersley May 6, 2010 / 2:39 AM

    This was a brave and bold article which I enjoyed very much. It was written for the ordinary man and I liked that, not for the “Sons”
    because they already know this is true, but this is one that can be sent to loved ones who need to understand. Praise God for the Word and how you brought out the truth from it. Love, Constance

  13. T.J. Whitworth May 3, 2010 / 11:06 PM

    Wonderful essay! I think the time where many more people will be able to receive this is drawing very near. The walls of religion, law, and hate are buckling and will fall down under the weight of God’s spirit being poured out on all flesh. The fact that you know God is in control of all things and works all things after the counsel of His own will and that God is Love and will have ALL men to be saved and come unto the knowledge of the truth tells me that you are not only almost at the top of your ladder, but you are already there my man. Every essay God inspires you to write gives everyone who God has read them the strength and courage to keep ascending to the top of their own ladders so they can in turn help others up too. So keep on keeping on dude!

  14. Abigail May 3, 2010 / 12:47 PM

    My grandmother used to tell me that Jesus was coming and I was going to be left behind if I didn’t do everything that the “church” required me to do. I lived in fear and I always wondered, if God is love then why is he so scary? I can recall asking my Sunday school teachers questions and being “corrected” many times. Now that I think about it, I was understanding more as a kid then they were as adults. I’m glad I keep searching for the truth and asking God to give me understanding. I go to sleep with peace in my heart every night now. Peace Jacob.

  15. Joseph Clark May 3, 2010 / 7:59 AM

    Brother Jacob,
    You have almost reached the top of your ladder. A few more rungs to climb and you will be there brother. When one steps out in faith to expose the blindness that all the man-made religions do pour forth upon the children of God, he is truly been anointed with the oil of enlightenment, as was David when he went up against the Giant Goliath. He is called Goliath-(Go-liath), for he is all the man-made religions that lie to us by teaching the doctrines of idolatry. They change Jesus Christ into one special member (their idol) that lived 2,000 years ago, instead of Him being the Living God that lives in us. They fail to see as (the Word) say’s, (Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.)(Heb.13:8). Oh and He (the Word) say’s (I am the First and the Last, and the Last shall be as the First.) because He is speaking of us, all the different members of the body of Christ, which are taking into the number at different times. My prayers are with you brother, for I know that the evil ones ordained from old, who are all the unbelievers will come at you strongly. May the protection and anointing of the Lord always be with you in the name of Jesus Christ. I love you brother, from Joseph.

  16. Dean May 3, 2010 / 4:51 AM

    thank you-blessings

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