WILL THE REAL SAVIOR PLEASE STAND UP?
Okay so this paper is going to open some eyes, get some people all hot under the collar, and have others say “HOW COOL IS THAT?” – You see what I am going to do, is share with all of you something I learned many, many years ago. “What is that?” the peanut gallery asks.
Well today, after many just finished celebrating what they considered to be, the birth of their Savior, Jesus Christ on DECEMBER 25, who was a Carpenter’s son, immaculately concieved, son of God, who took upon himself the sins of the world, performed great miracles, had disciples, suffered, was crusified and then rose again, through whom is the ONLY WAY TO GOD, well… TODAY, I am going to introduce you to multiple others “Saviors” who each have similar stories, lived, and was worshipped long as the Son of God, before Jesus, and who today we all believe to be myth.
Now, I want to point out right away, THIS PAPER IS NOT TO SHOW YOU THAT JESUS IS A MYTH, but to show you that EVERY SINGLE one of these SAVIORS of the world, were in fact ALLEGORIES TO LEAD US ALL to finding true SALVATION, (CHRIST IN YOU = HOPE OF GLORY).
This paper is simply to help everyone of us understand that (each of these allegorical Hero types) are in fact pictures of US ALL! (For there is only one way to God, and that is through the SON = the Only Way to God is to UNDERSTAND YOU ARE GOD’S CHILD!)
This is why Mankind gives birth to a savior, kills a savior, and resurrectes a savior, each and every year. This is mankind’s carnal attempt to be in control, to be god themselves. However, while so many are putting their focus on a man that is said to have died thousands of years ago, and refuse to look within, to find out who they truly are, they are missing the boat completely. And so, mankind in his ignorance, will vainly carry out these traditions, and I say thank God for it all. Because one day, their TRUE MEANING, which is the BIRTH, LIFE, DEATH, AND RESSURECTION of CHRIST as YOU, WILL BE REVEALED!
And I hope you are NOT SHOCKED, when you find out the J-Man, wasn’t the first, Son of God, king of Kings, Lord or Lords, Shepherd, Savior, born of a Virgin who took away the sins of the world, was killed and rose again, to take away the sins of the world. 🙂 No, there are many, many, others who pre-date Jesus, with almost identical stories.
“WHY?” You ask… Because, even though many consider these OTHER saviors mythology, their story is as true for us today as Jesus’s story. Because there is, and always has been ONE GOD and ONE SON (Humanity) — Each of these mytholigical or literal tellings, speaks of our Divine Nature, A fall, death (ignorance of our true nature), Suffering (because we don’t know God is in control, and who we truly are), Crusifiction (Laying down our carnal life), Ressurection (Being Born Again Spiritually) — THIS IS ALL OUR STORY, and since I know it to be true, the same story will easily be seen over thousands of years. The Saviors and God’s may have different names, but the TRUTH of the STORY remains to the same, and ITS PURPOSE IS TO WAKE US UP!
Now, I hope this paper encourages you, and increases your faith as opposed to stirring you up to want to defend your particular savior “Jesus” – When I say to you, “As he is so are we in this world” “He is the first born among many brethren” – We can’t make an idol out of a man, we not only haven’t met, don’t have the strongest imperical data about, but more importantly, we are COMMANDED NOT TO DO SO!
I believe in Jesus, I once knew him after the flesh (carnal understanding) but no longer. As scripture says, I have come to the place where I don’t go to Jesus anymore. I know the FATHER (One Spirit of Life in us all) GOD
22And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.
23And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
So let’s take a short look at the many other SAVIORS, that sound a lot like Jesus, and then I will sum up, why this is, and why this is NOT some clever trick of the “so-called” devil to trick people, but it is actually, a GREAT WORK OF GOD, who only opens his mouth in PARABLE, DARK SAYINGS, AND ALLEGORY!
I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:
Let’s start with a SAVIOR, you may or may not have heard of… MITHRA!
Mithra is believed to be a Mediator between God and man, between Heaven and the Earth. Mithra was born in the Cave on December 25th, and was born of a VIRGIN. His festivals, which the Christians adopted were observed in the Winter Solstice and the Vernal Equinox—Christmas and Easter. His symbol is the Lamb, he is called ‘the Way,’ ‘the Truth,’ ‘the Light,’ ‘the Life,’ ‘the Word,’ ‘the Son of God,’ ‘the Good Shepherd.’ Also, his “church” was built upon the sacred rock called “Petra” – “Upon this rock, peter, jesus built his church… hhhmnnn”
Of course Mithra worship started long, long before Jesus came on the scene. And there are many variations of Mithra that over the years took hold. In India Mithra became Mitra, or Itu, and In Babylon, Mithra was identified with Shamash, the sun god, and he is also Bel, the Mesopotamian and Canaanite/ Phoenician solar deity. In any event… Mithra, very clearly a type of Christ.
Here is a cool bullet point list I found on “truthbeknown.com” – when researching Mithra
1) Mithra was born on December 25th of the virgin Anahita.
2) The babe was wrapped in swaddling clothes, placed in a manger and attended by shepherds.
3) He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
4) He had 12 companions or “disciples.”
5) He performed miracles.
6) As the “great bull of the Sun,” Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace.
7) He ascended to heaven.
8) Mithra was viewed as the Good Shepherd, the “Way, the Truth and the Light,” the Redeemer, the Savior, the Messiah.
9) Mithra is omniscient, as he “hears all, sees all, knows all: none can deceive him.”
10) He was identified with both the Lion and the Lamb.
11) His sacred day was Sunday, “the Lord’s Day,” hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.
12) His religion had a eucharist or “Lord’s Supper.”
13) Mithra “sets his marks on the foreheads of his soldiers.”
14) Mithraism emphasized baptism.
DOES THAT SOUND LIKE ANY SAVIOR and RELIGION WE KNOW? — Moving on, because there are MANY OF THEM. Let’s move unto KRISHNA!
Let’s put aside the fact that Krishna sounds like Christ or “Krishnianity” 🙂 – The fact is, here is another SON OF GOD you can read about in one of my favorite books, the “Gita”… So let’s bullet point this “Savior” out for you.
1) Krishna is the second person of the Hindu Trinity. He is considered to be one of the incarnations of the God Vishnu.
2) Born of a Virgin named Devaki
3) The point of his birth was to bring victory of good over evil, by cleansing sins of human beings
4) Placed in Manger after Birth
5) Adopted Father was a Carpenter
6) Visited by wise men and shepherds guided by a star
7) Angels warned Krishna’s parents of the “slaughter of innocents” to come to find and kill Krishna
8) Went into wilderness to fast
9) Called “the lion of the tribe of Saki.”
10) Krishna identified as “the seed of the woman bruising the serpent’s head.”
11) Was said to be sinless
12) Performed miracles, cleansed lepers, raised people from the dead, casted out demons
13) Selected disciples, had a last supper, forgave enemies
14) Descended into hell and was ressurected, people witnessed his acension
There are many more, but you can google the K-man and find out more… MOVING ON, to our next SAVIOR…
O thou son of Nut, the whole world is gratified when thou ascendest thy father’s throne like Ra. Thou shinest in the horizon, thou sendest forth thy light into the darkness, thou makest the darkness light with thy double plume, and thou floodest the world with light like the Disk at break of day.
For sake of time, I will bullet point Osiris as well. Now, remember, this paper is NOT to discount the importance of Christ, but to rather show that THIS ALLEGORY is THERE FOR US ALL TO LEARN FROM. As important as the story of Jesus is to us today, Osiris, Horace, and the Egyptian gods also gave great insight into the TRUTH OF WHO WE ALL ARE. (GOD’S CHILD)… Where some would argue that hearing about these mythical saviors could devastate another’s faith in Christ, I say, it is the very EVIDENCE that the STORY OF CHRIST IN YOU, is TRUTH! It is ALL TRULY OUR STORY, and has been told for thousands of years. These accounts, are not as some Christian scholars state, the crafting of the devil to mislead people into worshipping the wrong God. Remember God is IN control, there would be no point for the same story to be told for years and years unless these stories led those who believed to higher place of understanding. In any event, let’s continue with OSIRIS.
1) Osiris may have been the first GodMan – dating back some 2,500 bce
2) Called “Lord of Lords”, “King of Kings”, “God of Gods”, “Resurrection and the Life”, “Good Shepherd”
3) Osiris caused men and women to be “born again”
4) His birth was announced by Three Wise Men
5) Had a star in the east, Sirius, that signified his birth
6) Had a Eucharist ceremony of sorts, in which his flesh was eaten in the form of communion cakes of wheat.
7) Taught almost identical teachings, most word for word as Jesus
8) He was killed and later resurrected, providing hope to all that they may do likewise and become eternal
9) Osiris exclaims “I am the Lord of the fields when they are white ready to harvest”
10) “O Osiris! A well, or flow, comes out of your mouth to him!”
11) He is the Lord of Everlasting Life and ressurection
MOVING ON: Yes that’s right, there are many more SAVIORS for us to discuss, let’s move unto the one the WINEBIBERS 🙂 OF THE WORLD LOVE… Dionysus.
1) Son of God (Zeus)
2) Virgin Birth
3) Dionysus was born of a virgin on December 25th and, as the Holy Child, was placed in a manger.
4) His birth was announced with a heavenly display and celestial music.
5) He was a traveling teacher who performed miracles.
6) He rode in on an ass, which carries him to meet his passion” with crowds shouting and waving bundles of branches.
7) He was a sacred king killed and eaten in a eucharistic ritual for fecundity and purification.
8) Dionysus rose from the dead on March 25th.
9) God of Wine, who turned water into wine.
10) He was considered the “only Begotten Son,” “Savior,” “Redeemer,” “Sin Bearer,” “Anointed One,” and the “Alpha and Omega”, and “Lord God of God born”
11) Called the Lamb
12) He offers his followers the chance to be born again through the rites of baptism.
13) Followers wait for his return to judge the living and dead
14) He was crusified on a tree.
15) Called the True Vine
16) At his trial, Dionysus is described by Freke and Gandy as “a quiet stranger with long hair and a beard who brings a new religion.”
NOW OF COURSE MY FAVORITE IS BUDDHA!
I mean you can basically put his teachings and Jesus’s teachings next to each other, they are almost identical. There are also many similarities in the story telling.
1) Royal Birth announced by a holy man
2) Was tempted of the devil (mara)
3) Fasted in the wilderness
4) Supernatural birth… It is said that immediately after coming out of the womb Buddha walked and that Lotus Flowers Blossomed under each step he took, and the trees were said to Bow to his mother Maya before she gave birth.
5) Buddha wanted to bring an end to suffering
6) He overcame death
But the similar allegory between the Names of Jesus’s mother Mary, and SiddHartha (Buddha’s) mother Maya, is what is really intriguing.
Mary in Greek literally means “Their Rebellion” – So Salvation is birthed from man’s rebellion (which is the illusion of seperation for God)
Maya in Buddhism also means “the Illusion of this Life” – So too we see, out of IGNORANCE the TRUTH is born!
This is so true for us all. In almost every story, MANKIND has forgotten their way to God and because of their ignorance they became evil, wicked, so God had to send a SAVIOR to bring Mankind back to him.
THESE ARE THE WAYS GOD DOES THIS! Through parable, through the passing on of stories, through mythology, tradition, THROUGH ALLEGORY! If you have read any of my articles you know, I pretty much see the allegory in everything, my home, car, wife, children, belonging, neighbors, war, famine, you name it… There is something to learn from it. And SO, OF COURSE, each of these SAVIOR STORIES will have striking similarities! SO, EVERYONE EVENTUALLY WILL COME TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH (who they are)
All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them
Now many will say, the Bible is to be taken LITERALLY and EVERYTHING that happened, LITERALLY HAPPENED… Well, once again I am not hear to dispute that. I HIGHLU DOUBT IT, as did Paul, The Apostle Paul said clearly, stuff just didn’t happen, that they were in fact ALLEGORY.
23But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
Shoot Paul said, we were under the same Cloud, and Drank from the Same Rock, Israel in the wilderness was under and drank from… CHRIST. He made it clear, “these things are allegories” – So it should suprise anyone that God would use allegories over the years to teach the same truths, in ways different cultures and times could understand.
OKAY, now, one of my New year Resolutions is going to try and keep my essays a bit shorter for all of you. So, I will simply say, there are many other “Savior” characters that are strikingly simililar to Jesus Christ… Here are some others to look up and have fun with, Saturn, Adonis, Odin, Thor, Hermes, Horace, Hercules, Zoroaster, ahhhhh the list goes on and on. Now, while the list of these mythological Saviors goes on and on, and the similarities they share with what Christians today call their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ cannot be denied, I want to offer you the amazing reason.
IT IS BECAUSE THERE IS BUT ONE STORY, TOLD DIFFERENT WAYS. Does it matter if it was a boy who cried wolf, or a girl who cried lion, if both allegories taught people that there may be devastating consequences for lying?
Now, while many atheists will use these legends and myths to disprove the proof of God. And the many contradictions found in scripture (specifically regarding the life of Jesus, which no one really can attest for sure as to when Jesus walked the literal earth. Where he was between 12-30. Why the Gospels were written decades later, Why the Apostle Paul never once spoke of knowing Jesus after the flesh, and did not focus on the literal but insteadl the ALLEGORICAL), while Atheists will use this as a reason NOT TO BELIEVE IN GOD…
I will USE all of these COINCIDENTAL myths, legends, similarities, and missing and disputed data on the literal life as Christ, as I always do, TO SHOW THE TRUTH OF IT SPIRITUALLY by understanding the ALLEGORY OF IT ALL.
And yes for the NATURE lovers out there. Many could argue all of these stories, are clever ways of telling the story of the LITERAL SUN, and twelve astrological signs (that follow the sun)… Sure we can even point out how for 3 days the SUN seems to die, and also rises again when it CROSSES over…
The Sun dies every year, from the 21st (solstice, lowest point in the sky) to the 25th, when the Sun reverses and begins to return to its former, higher path, after being stationary for 3 days (biblical hell visit of the Son). At the solstice, the Sun is said to be at its weakest power.
I have often pointed out the significance of the number 3 ( a tri-mester ) of birth. THE SUN dies on ITS CROSS (The cross through the equinoxes that is), as we the SONS OF GOD, die (become ignorant) on our CROSS.
Like many of the “Saviors” we read about here. The date of Jesus’ resurrection, is when the position of the sun is at the time of the vernal equinox. This is when WINTER SUN WAS TRULY DEAD— And the day was now longer than the night. March 25th was considered the end of the sun’s passing through the vernal equinox. Interesting, this is right around Easter, is it not?
The definition of EQUINOX means “Two EQUAL times of darkness and LIGHT” -In nature these are the TWO MEN IN ONE BED, TWO WOMAN AT THE MILL… This in fact, is the DOUBLE MINDED MAN… And yes, we live in this world of DUALITY for now. But, even this POINTS US TO THE TRUTH of who we are!
Regardless of where you look, you will find OUR STORY, the story of CHRIST IN US. In ancient religions, in astronomy, under the microscope, anywhere, and everywhere, for it is all an ALLEGORY to bring us back to the TRUTH OF WHO WE ARE!
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
We need to stop fighting over dogma, and whose religion is right. We need to go within ourselves, calm out minds, and seek God. God is waiting, so knock, seek, and you will find. And the SAVIOR will be born out of the VIRGIN CALLED YOUR QUIET, UNDEFILED MIND!
I didn’t write this paper, to try and attack another’s faith in Jesus. God forbid, my faith in Jesus the man, was part of my journey as well. I was baptized by John, and believed what every religious leader fed me, but there was a hunger inside… God drew me to the SON, and I prayed… Father teach me the truth no matter what the cost. And day by day, I learn more, see more, understand more, and love more. Not because I prayed that prayer, but because I was inspired to, as we all will be when the time is right. So rejoice that the story of Salvation has been told so many different ways over so many different days.
If there was no story of OSIRIS, how would anyone know about the connection between God and man? If not for the Vedas (perhaps the oldest holy book in history) how would anyone learn about the very same connection between God and Man. That GOD is IN MAN, that God is ALL IN ALL, and THAT MAN IS MADE IN GOD’S IMAGE.
There is an inherent TRUTH about our very existence, that we as human beings MUST SHARE AND REALIZE! These stories, teach us of compassion, love, mercy, sacrafice, humilty, living for something, that we can endure regardless of what we suffer. And that even our suffering has purpose. That WE ARE THE MUSIC MAKERS, THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD on earth. And until we all come to the unity of the faith and the stature of the perfect man (which scripture states ALL WILL) – FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, the same story has been told, for those who have eyes to see, and ears to hear, so they too will overcome the world as the many SAVIORS did before them.
We must STOP believing our GOD, our SAVIOR, our BELIEF, is the ONLY BELIEF! We must stop fighting over tits and tats of letters of laws and doctrine, and we MUST see the COMMON TRUTH found in EVERY RELIGION, EVERY MYTH, EVERY LEGEND, IN EVERY LAND, EVERY COUNTRY, and that is that we ALL ARE THE HEROIC Savior that descended into hell (Imagination/ignorance) and must RISE OUT OF IT, AS GOD’S CHILD!
imam mahdi is the real savior its fact
Noora, thank you for your comment. What if “the Guided one” (Imam Mahdi) was actually to be revealed WITHIN you and not outside of you. The word Judgment (which is when Imam Mahdi appears) means a seperating of right and wrong, truth and lies, it doesn’t mean a time when unbelievers are tortured or destroyed, it means the lies within people that keep them from loving and seeing the truth is destroyed. The Natures (names) of people that keep them blind to the truth of love is what is destroyed. Their are “Guided” away from the lies of the world, hate, and fear and led into the truth of forgiveness, compassion and love… What if, the Imam Mahdi is actually within you and everyone, and appearing within as opposed to without? — What will be your reaction when the son of Mary (Jesus) descends and your Imam is from among yourselves?
(Sahih Muslim, bab nuzul ‘isa, Vol. 2; Sahih Bukhari, kitab bad’ al-khalq wa nuzul ‘isa, Vol. 4) – The word AMONG you, WITHIN you… What will be your reaction? Of course it is not for me to say what is true or not, but I see a world where we are all united by the truth of love, where there is no us and them, there is only one spirit (Allah or God or whatever you want to call the Creator or all) and that one spirit is in us all, through us all, and in us all… and in that day of judgment, when we realize we are all one, then there will be rejoicing in the streets… Of course, I am just a man and who is too say who knows the ways of the Creator of all!
I would never Give my Glory to another
Everyone claims not to be me
yet they are praised over me
but this is why I brought justice
I will leave you with a lil bit of good
In eden the creator created GOD in his image
then he took evil out
Me and Lucifer
Get it yet
I am the only one who can bring truth
apart from me there is no savior
I’m not sure what you meant by what you wrote. Could you further explain it? And your comments and thoughts are always welcome here as are anyone’s. Peace
I am Standing up
But why? what for?
You still dont serve me
I did in fact try to see where you’re coming from, and judging by the experience that oftentimes proved you right, there is a solid dose of truthfulness in what your theory.
It matters not what names or titles are used in these stories. The truth is all the same. All have fallen/died so all will be risen/made alive. MANKIND AS A WHOLE IS THE ONLY SON GOD HAS EVERHAD. Whether we call ourselves Adam, Jesus, Mithra, Zeus, Buddah, or who ever, we are all the same thing, and that is the Son of God. The only difference is that many are still in the fallen state(Adam) and few are in the risen state(Christ/Jesus), but in the end, God will have all men to be saved and come unto the knowledge of the truth(Christ within). Who cares if any of these “saviors” ever actually existed as their stories protrayed. You cannot be saved by someone or something outside of yourself. Salvation comes from within. That is why we are told to take up our own cross. The stories are speaking about our crucifixion and resurrection that takes place within. It is not about something that may or may not have taken place thousands of years ago. It is about what is and will continue to take place within each and everyone of us until God is finished with us. So let’s stop making even bigger idols out of these characters and their stories and instead grab ahold of the beautiful truth they all have for our lives in the here and now. We can debate all we want if Jesus the man is the only true savior there is or if he even ever existed and all that will do is cause more DIVISION. Like I said before, who cares. A man from two thousand years ago will not save you nor will anyone one from even longer ago save you. God will save you and is saving you. Even the name Jesus means GOD SAVES. We are the only son God has. And one day we will all, with one mind confess that. So let’s just know God is in control of it all and rest in that truth and love one another. We are all one, like it or not, and we are in this together. I just hope that soon the alarm will go off and and we will all finally wake up from this illusion of separation.
Nicely said T.J. Thank you!
We are all made up of the same “star stuff” as Carl Sagan would say!
We are God’s star stuff and it is in all created things. Yes, we ARE all one. Isn’t that just beautifully simple and Divine. The Kingdom has been here all along, it’s in each and every one of us. We just need to have eyes to see and ears to hear the truth that has been so lovingly given to us all.
And the beauty of God’s truth is just as wonderfully simple and Divine, that once the veil has been lifted from those that are dead in Adam and become alive in Christ, in all truth and love, there will be no more war, hunger, fear, hatred…etc.
For each one, humbled in God’s love and salvation has been given the keys to the Kingdom. And being Spirit Filled Children of God living as Jesus taught us on how to live as Christ, the Kingdom could and would be right here, right now.
When we accept this truth that God has given us, we have no more man made dogma to have to live up to. No more false idols to have to bow down to in order to assure our entry into Heaven. No man made rules to live by for fear of spending all eternity tortured in a man made hell fire.
God is Love. All will be saved. That is the Good News and this Truth will set you free!
I will not be posting any more on your site Jacob I only came to warn you and no more. You have my email address and can email me if you so desire if not that is up to you. There is a way that seems right in a mans eyes in the end it leads to death or seperation from God. I would hope you would choose Gods way and not the one you have been going which is something you have made in your own mind.
Sometimes being smart can be a curse you begin to believe the stories you tell. The problem is when you tell others these stories and they dont grow because only truth will feed a hungry heart. Christ is truth and all else is lies.
David, you came to warn me. Wow my man, did God send you? To warm me, because my words have offended you? David have you ever considered that perhaps I am rubber and you are glue. That your words are meant to bounce off me so they could define you? Fear, fear, and more fear is all I hear. David, veiled threats of consequence and yet David, what is my offense. You see? Oh that’s right you can’t. That’s why you keep coming back here, because you care for my soul, yes David I know. You only have my best interests at heart, that is why you say I must depart from writing about the liberty I have, even though I only do it in part. What if I were to say, that so long as you keep coming back here to play, you soon will be seeing things my way, which is the way, the only way, the light you say? The truth I say! The Christ, you wait for, is here knocking, your the door, but your to busy looking in the clouds and outside, to see all that is waiting inside. You don’t care for my spirit, David your proud and you know it. You want only to instill fear, because it is clear that what I hold dear scares you, I understand brother, the day of the Lord when it is near can be scary for those who can’t yet hear. But you keep coming back, you keep going on the attack, it will never hide the empty feeling you have inside, it will only help me when i come across more people like you, to handle them in stride. You’re nothing more than a work out to me, your words are like weight, I can lift them up or let them weigh on me. But I already worked out today, so let me just say. If you want to come in this sand box and play, try and do it in a loving way. Because David, God wants this of you, yes that is true. LOVE IS THE ONLY ANSWER, LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE, FORGIVENESS, AND COMPASSION, not condemnation or pride, this will never help reveal the Christ, that your life is hidden in. So, thanks for the warning but I’ll continue writing about love on this site. And I will tell all God is in control, and that they can finally give up the fight. They will simply trust, and see it is a must, to embrace the notion, that we are but specks of water, in God’s love filled ocean, and together we are one. Peace, and remember if you don’t believe these words I say, you will simply continue on in an ignorant way, until you finally see who you be, and then you’ll return with open arms, saying remember what a meanie I was that day 🙂 Thanks for being you David, good luck with that whole religion thing. No luck needed on the Trees where I swing, so don’t shy, yours always welcome to drop on by! 🙂 Jacob
I read the essay i know just what it says. I am not against you or any flesh and blood man. I come in the name of the Lord in the Spirit of Christ and proclaim truth. I come to tell all that they need to get their house in order and know that Christ and Christ alone is the way to God. And guess what Jacob I do love you other wise I would not come and warn you that although much of what you say you believe to be true much is false. Jesus Christ said either be for me or against me. There is only one God and one way to God through the one Son Gods Christ His Holy word made flesh. And now that Son the Christ of God lives in all true beleivers and I come in the name and power of the Christ of God to warn and tell all. Becareful what you say to my children in my name says the God of all creation.
You will know those whom I have sent because they will walk in power and their will be authiorty in the things they say.When I come you will see things change in your life very quickly and you will know I speak truth and am sent by this God you say you know. Before you write any more in the name of Jesus Christ be very carfull that it is truth and will make free or just something you thought up to tickle someones ears. You need to learn truth Jacob and know that you are not God nor are you Christ. God is God and you are not you are a man and not God. It is by His grace that He comes to you and His mercy is out to you and if I were you I would not take it lightly.Christ comes to all who believe you seem to think He is already in every man this is not true if He were the world would not be in the state it is in. Christ is the power of God to salavation and only finds rest in those who believe. Gods knows who are His and that Christ has come and lives in them. We are one with Christ and only do as the Father says and does. Just as the captain of our salavation the man Jesus who was and is the Christ of God and who sent me to warn you in Love to take heed what you say in His name. I say this as a brother from our Father judgment has come to the house of God. Brother I really do love you and I am the real thing. I hope you will listen.
For many shall come in my name saying I am Christ
and shall decieve many.
It sounds to me like there are many on this forum and Carlos is the only one not decieved by the lies that spew out of the mouth of all the false prophets. There is only one way to God as Father and that is through His one Son Jesus Christ and those who believe in Him all eles is lies and sinking sand. In the times we are livivng in you better know the true and living God and not be dcived by lies. All these other names that Jacob has brought up are lies from hell the unseen. They are not from the true and living God and all that follow them will fall into the ditch. Jesus said I am the way and the truth and the life there is no other way to the Father but through me. All elese is lies and will not lead any one to God and never will. And this is written in LOVE truth is love all lies no matter how dressed up are not love they are hate made to trip people up and leave them sick poor and naked.
Cave Dave my man! I think you missed the whole purpose of the essay. It wasn’t to have you go worshipping Mithra, Buddha, or any other hero shepherd savior of mythology, it was to show the world, that this is OUR STORY, being told in the same way, for thousands of years. I don’t want anyone to put their faith in any name or anyone, WITH EXCEPTION of GOD, the FATHER, the SPIRIT in us all. And there is only ONE WAY TO KNOW THAT GOD, and that is through the SON. Which means we MUST TAKE UP OUR CROSS! We must die to who we think we are, and realize that WE IN FACT are GOD’S CHILD. One son = Humanity – either dead in Adam or risen as Christ. Dave this is the truth, that is why we are NOT TO GO AFTER ANYONE who says they are the CHRIST… because OUR LIFE IS HID IN CHRIST, THE CHRIST IS OUR LIFE! I am so glad to see you continuing to read, and I always look forward to your input, you are helping a great many people to see, you may not realize it, but by calling me “false prophet, liar, etc” — which by the way, I’ve never claimed to be anything but a Man who loves God and loves to learn about God and loves others— in any event, by you calling me this, it gives people the oppurtunity to see how I will react. Will I shun you, attack you and cut you off, or will I embrace you instead of erasing you, and allow God’s work to be done. I don’t have all the answers, God does, I simply like to share. If I am wrong, it is GOD’S WILL I AM WRONG, and that goes for you too.. but I don’t believe I am wrong, in fact, I am pretty sure I am one hundred percent right in saying, “if you’ve seen me, or anyone else, you’ve see Adam, and Jesus, heaven and hell, the antichrist and the christ… for we are all these things, this I promise you.” Peace bro, Jacob
Why is it that humans are so confident in reality. We all know that our senses can fool us. Humans are fearful of investigating the truth. Why ? Because if they find it then everything could crumble.
In the Gospel of John 1:9 it says that
The TRUE LIGHT is that which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
What part of that scripture do you not believe?
That means neandethal, giants, pygmies, Hiddu Natives of the Americas, Chinese Jews Russians etc etc including geniuses and idiots, all have been given light.
Jacob is not saying that all these Myths are truth but that they have elements of truth.
Like most things of earth they are mixed with lies. Use your Bearean Beanie
Jesus himself re-interates to the apostles that…to you it is given and to others it is not given
(Mat 13:15) For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and
should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Most humans have veils on them and the majority of them are spiritually blind. They have not been given the good news
Christians for the most part have spread doctrine. So have other religions done the same.
(Joh 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
The only reason that some can receive the spiritual word is because the Father has revealed it through Christ
(Php 2:13) For it is God which worketh in you ….. both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Christians themselves have taken the story of the birth and have aggrandized it into commercialism.
Here is a scripture that Christan just will not believe
(2Co 5:16) Wherefore henceforth know we NO MAN man after the FLESH:
yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now HENCEFORTH KNOW “HIM” NO MORE.
I am still amazed how petty and dogmatic we can ALL can get. We can not see the Christ in ourselves never mind see the Christ in others i.e hindu, muslims, atheists, mormons catholics heretics, yes the whole crazy world
We need to keep in mind
(1Jn 4:11) Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
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The letter kills, an allegory may give some understanding, but it is the Spirit which gives life. And the Lord (Jesus Christ)is that Spirit.
What I regret the most is wasting my time reading all this crap instead of spending my time with my family. I’m done with this religious crap. Jacob, you are dead wrong and on the path of Joseph.
Carlos without manure the flowers would never grow. That’s why I put up with yours. 🙂
That’s how you repay me. Jesus said, “what merit do you have if you only love those who love you.
You failed the temptation(test), your not Christ.
Carlos, who are you talking to my man? And what are you talking about? And in God there is no failure, there is only try, try, again, or live and learn and overcome. 1st of all Carlos I don’t know you man, not at all, only your words, which are usually sorta mean bro. Secondly, I love everyone, because even the meatheads that go off on me, or the silly goose heads that condemn me and threaten me, even they are my greatest gift from God. I have learned so much by people who come against me, for no reason at all. It has taught me not to care really what others thought, only what God thought. It also taught me it’s okay if people see differently, because a person can only believe what they believe. Where you may worry about my soul, I am SOOOOOO not worried about yours my man! try not to take the videos or articles too personally, they are simply my way of reaching out and sharing, and guess what they actually help a lot of people. And I make not a dime from it, ask for nothing in return, and only care about this stuff, because doing it brings ME GREAT JOY! So don’t poop all over something that was beautifully made, unless of course, it is to make it more beautiful, in which case, please continue to poop away! LOL… Have an awesome Friday Night Carlos, and WE’RE ALL THE CHRIST, we all don’t know it yet! BECAUSE GOD ONLY HAS ONE SPIRIT, ONE SON, ONE BAPTISM, ONE, ONE, ONE = ALL ALL ALL 🙂 J-man
You need to lighten up, and that means you need to get some logic. Listen my man Jacob, like you call me, my man. I have absolutley nothing against you, you are the one, only you and no one else that it’s taking my writing personally. I started by writing to you and even admiring what you wrote, but you left me hanging. All I wanted was some explanations, more insight into what you were writing, but no, you took it personally and left me hanging there. I was actually looking for different opinions on the bible and yours sounded interesting, but you left me hanging, and you know why, because you took it personally, it was not me, it was you. So stop pointing your finger. I will repeat my self. If you have a revelation from God, then it’s up to you to clarify your revelation. I was not demanding this, I simply asked you to give more insight into your thoughts, but you left me hanging there. The bible says be “ready to give account”, well my man, you didn’t, you left me hanging, and all people here are witnesses to that, because I know what I wrote. If you want to ignore people and rant on with your revelations, go ahead, but now I know that there is no solidity behind what you say. That is all I’m saying. I never insulted you, I never did anything like that, you were the one that got all defensive. You my man is the one with the ship on his shoulder. Love Carlos. I’ll will keep searching, maybe I’ll find someone who will answer my questions, I don’t need anybody pampering me.
Carlos, I want to apologise right off the bat. After writing this email, you have helped me see and learn a great lesson. I wrote in my novel, “Those that hate the most must be loved the most.” – But I can honestly say, sometimes it’s hard for me to love, I have had some many in my life attack me, abuse me, mock me, threaten me, I have lost so much in life, I have no family beside my amazing wife and kids, I’ve been sick most my life, I’ve had so many down times, lost so much, battled depression, suffered some pretty bad abuse, and STILL to this day I have people who are cruel to me for no reason, who go off on me, tear me down, feel that they need to put me in place, well, it has been hard. And it’s like here, sometimes I can be like, all right enough already, Jesus after being crucified forgave them, but didn’t allow them to continue to hurt them. But I have just learned, that even people attacking me, are in fact in need of me loving them more. They need love more than those who are kid to me… In any event. I posted your entire message and answered everything, I do not want you to feel that I am leaving you hanging, but I also want you to take responsibility and see what is real and what is fear. My words in bold, yours are not
“You need to lighten up, and that means you need to get some logic. Listen my man Jacob, like you call me, my man” Translation: em>Jacob is acting wrong and stupid. And I don’t like the way you call me, may man. So take that!
I have absolutley nothing against you, (You really don’t, but for some reason feel like you do) you are the one, only you and no one else that it’s taking my writing personally. (Perhaps I have, I can’t say for sure. I’m so used to being mocked and threatened, that it’s hard to say, I suppose it depends on the day. but with you, I think I just said, “if you don’t like what you’re reading, don’t come back.” That wasn’t me kicking you out of here, but good advice, “Blessed is the man that does not condemn himself in the things he does”
I started by writing to you and even admiring what you wrote, but you left me hanging (I have? Carlos, I think I have responded to you more than anyone.) All I wanted was some explanations, more insight into what you were writing, but no, you took it personally and left me hanging there. I was actually looking for different opinions on the bible and yours sounded interesting, ( Hey there, it’s not my job to force you to see what I see, believe what I believe, believe what you want… IT’S ALL GOOOOOOD!). but you left me hanging, and you know why, because you took it personally, it was not me, it was you. So stop pointing your finger. (Carlos, I honestly don’t know what to say to you man. It’s not my, or anyone else’s job to change your heart. I’m not angry at you, I don’t think less of you, and I am only responding to you, on the off chance that something I write helps you. Because that’s all I really want to do with my life. But if what I write and say troubles you, just move on. Or stay here, and if you really want me to explain things, then ask questions, don’t just say I am wrong and why you believe I am wrong. I don’t require anyone’s approval, or need anyone’s approval to seek God and form my own beliefs, which I pray are formed for me)
I will repeat my self. If you have a revelation from God, then it’s up to you to clarify your revelation (Carlos, I have absolutely no obligation to do any such thing. I don’t answer to you or anyone else, but God. I know that bothers some, but brother, that is the way it should be with you as well.)
I was not demanding this, I simply asked you to give more insight into your thoughts, but you left me hanging there. (Carlos, I think you should re-read all your comments and my responses to those comments, and remember I have a big family, a career, a life, and I don’t always get to all the emails that are sent my way, but with you I believe I did the best I could.) The bible says be “ready to give account”, well my man, you didn’t, you left me hanging, and all people here are witnesses to that, because I know what I wrote. (Carlos, I do my best to answer people the best I can, and I try and do this without taking their attacks or unkind words personally, because I know they don’t know any better. But, brother either I am living another life, or you have completely fabricated something, because you did no such things, and neither did I do what you accuse me off. CARLOS, I am not a hot shot preachers, I’m just some guy who loves to share. NO ONE should be looking tio me for answers, if you’ve read my blogs, or watched my essays, you can EASILY SEE, ALL I DO IS SHARE MY OPINION, and I even go so far as to say I could be wrong, and tell everyone they need to find the answers WITHIN. Why don’t you take that advice and be happy in your search?)
If you want to ignore people and rant on with your revelations, go ahead, but now I know that there is no solidity behind what you say. That is all I’m saying. (Actually you don’t know that, and I KNOW you don’t know that, because if there wasn’t any truth to what I am saying, it wouldn’t trouble you so.)
I never insulted you, (Sure you did, even in this email Carlos. To insult, is to put someone beneath you. To believe you have the right to put them in their place, tell them what is what, and then make fun of what others say, to feel better about their own insecurity.) I never did anything like that, you were the one that got all defensive. You my man is the one with the ship on his shoulder. (That’s a good possibility, none of us are whole yet, we all have feelings and get hurt, but you were kind of mean, be real :))Love Carlos.
I’ll will keep searching, (AWESOME) maybe I’ll find someone who will answer my questions, (NOT AWESOME, as I said, YOU CAN’T FIND ANSWERS IN ANYONE, ONLY IN YOURSELF. WITHIN CARLOS, WITHIN! YOU DON’T NEED A TEACHER) I don’t need anybody pampering me. (Everyone needs some pampering from time to time)
Hope this helps, Jacob (Consider the amount of time I put into this for you, someone I don’t know, someone who obviously has a problem with me.) 🙂
Jacob, I apologize too, I love you in Christ. Jacob wrote; “Those that hate the most must be loved the most.” But Jesus said. It’s those that “we” like the least that are the ones that we have to love the most, we must not boast. Because it’s our selfish ego that wants to be glorify, and when others attack that ego/carnal mind, it’s when we become offensive. It’s your ego/fleshly perception thinking/perceiving that I hate you or your writing, but that was not the intention of my heart, honestly. With that said, again I apologize if I seemed offesinve. I’m a very direct person, I know, and I can sound mean, but it was not in this case, it was not my intention, that I know. I did attack some of your interpretations at the end, I don’t agree with them. I’m sorry that you have been through so much pain, I hope God blesses your life and your family’s life. I was hoping for something but I didn’t get it, that’s all. What I see is that there is still a great wall of separtion between “christians/Israel”, God’s people. If we can’t come together in agreement, in logical agreement then the church/us will always be separated, and the world will see these separation and they will continue to attack us. Everyone wants to stay in their own corner, with their own private interpretations and with their own little/big group. I know love is the final goal, but the word of God must be crystal clear if we are to grow. Take care Jacob.
Carlos thank you so much man. That was awesome, to read that as I am eating my lunch. You are correct, our ego is a silly thing. I pray for all of it to go away! And yes I too long for the day, when everyone simply loves and there is no want or desire to rule, we just love. Peace
Jacob, it seems that you can detect by my writing that I’m grumpy and upset. Is this a gift from God too. What you are doing is glorifying yourself by saying that I’m grumpy and upset. How could you possibly know how I feel or what I’m thinking about. If you don’t want people to comment on your blogs, then make them private. If you don’t want other Christians opinions, then say it clearly. I only want my opinion, I don’t care about what anybody else says. Although you are willing to consider what other people write, and that’s fine, perfectly fine. That reveals to me your position. People write all over the internet and you just like other people criticize what other christians believe, you call them ignorant and the peanut gallery. I can see now by the amount of responses that you get that your following is very small. You threw me off, it was my fault for not reading more of your articles, I should have been more careful. But let me tell you this, it’s my duty to help christians not to go astraight and not to be decieved. Jesus told us to take care of one another. I will go agaisnt what you write, if I feel like it, and you can erase my account if you want to. Others here if they are looking for the truth, they will the same and they will leave. I have to defend the truth, what I believe to be the truth. And you are right, I can here on my own, and I’ll leave on my own. But I can assure, that you are not Christ, you are not even close. You don’t know the meaning of love.
Man, you really have to relax brother. Also, God doesn’t need you or anyone else to DEFEND (what you believe to be truth). That’s how the crusades, the inquisition, and many other horrible crimes against God’s creation began. Also if anyone is following me, they need to wake up. I’m simply a writer sharing what I have come to learn, and what I believe to be true. Unlike many pastors, or religious leaders I don’t demand people to pay my salary or help me build a little kingdom (religious building) on earth. Jesus did NOT CONDEMN, and he did say to care for people, to love your enemies, to do good to those that despitefully use you. I have to be very clear, you can write whatever you want, you can attack me, or call whoever you want mentally ill, sick, or lost, but the bottom line, these words don’t hurt me, the only one that is hurting is the one that attacks another. I can guarantee you, you are not doing something pure and righteous by constantly coming against what I or others write. And it most certainly is not your duty to correct others, your duty is to work out your salvation with fear (respect/honor/reverenance) and tribute. I’m not your enemy man, I’m just some normal guy, who loves God, loves others, who has bills, a wife and three kids, a fourth on the way. I am nothing special, and I don’t think that you realize your constant attacks on me are making me out to be bigger than I am, I am no different than you. I’m glad you are reading these articles, because regardless of what you think of them now, they are seeds that are now planted within you. Remember Paul (before he was Paul) was doing exactly what you are doing, he thought he was defending the faith, and in the meantime he was killing Christians (you are trying to kill spiritually)… But Carlos, people don’t need to hear tear downs and put downs, they need to be uplifted, try to build first you’ll always get a better result. A great teacher understands love and encouragement is a better teacher than shame and condemnation. I hope whatever it is within you that has you lets up. And I NEVER said I don’t want others opinions, otherwise not one of your comments would make this page. I do have control over that, but I think that a lot can be learned by people reading what you wrote, what I wrote and what others wrote. A tree is judged by its fruit. Re-read what the FRUITS of the SPIRIT are… I guarantee, you won’t find condemnation on that list. Also, peanut gallery is a silly term used to describe people who come to read thise articles only to critisize them, I know I am not perfect and many of these articles I don’t even edit. I only pray people look to the heart of what is mentioned and not fill in what they believe I am writing. For example, on my last article YOU MISSED THE POINT COMPLETELY. And please don’t tell me I don’t know the meaning of Love, I love more than you can know. If I can love people who hurt me, I can certainly love people who love me, no one is perfect we know in part, and we all have CHRIST as our LIFE. One last thing, tens of thousands of people read my articles, many share them, but I have a counter and I know how many people read these, it completely blows me away, I could if I wanted start putting advertisments on my page to make some money, for now, I do this for me, and I only pray it reaches some people in a positive way. I will tell you, if your worried that more people will read my essays, than you should stop commenting. Because the more people come against something, the more visible it become. So I thank you for helping get the Word out there. Keep your comments coming if need be. It’s all part of God’s will. Much love to you Carlos, have a good day.
Hey there Jacob,
This is not for you brother, but it is for poor old Carlos. Brother Carlos, I know where you are at because I came from that world of darkness, but the Lord spoke to me one day when I was standing out in my yard. I had noticed these ants and other bugs crawling around in the grass. The Lord said, see all these bugs are like all those who have not asked for to be enlightened spiritually to see the real Truth, but they still see in littles as a carnal man sees. All these bugs can only see a few inches away for all the blades of grass are blocking their vision. Then when a man, as one who has been filled with the Spirit of God and enlightened stands in the same place, he can see all of his neighbors, even blocks away. You see by this the Lord showed me not to be content with thinking and presuming as a man does in the vanity of his own small carnal mind, but we must ask Him the Lord God to be given the right to see the hidden things of God, that are hid from the disobedient ones, who will not obey (the Word of God). And as you spoke like you did not like to read the Holy Bible, I would like to remind you that He says, (John 1:1-) (In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.). Then when you finally realize (the Word of God) is God and fall in love with Him (the Word) to where it flows through your veins, then you will understand the next verse, (John 1:2) (The same was in the beginning with God.) See as (the Word) says, we can no longer be stiff necked and hard-hearted, but we must open up the door of our heart, so that the real Truth can come in. I love you brother Carlos in the name of Jesus Christ. Please pray about these things and let the sweetness of the Spirit flow.
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Joseph, you are sick, mentally sick,what are you talking about. If you believe what Jacob wrote, then you deny Jesus as the only unique, begotten son of God. If you even consider these idols to be like Jesus, you are not in Christ and Christ is not in you. There are no parallels between these so called myth and Jesus. Please do your research before you talk. I’m sorry, but Jacob is confused, very confused. To even dare to post something like this. There is no other way to look at his posts, but offending. Jesus is the truth, Mithrah is not. Just pick one of those idols and do your research and you will find that nothing of what it says about them is true.
Dear brother Carlos,
The reason you think I am mentally sick and that you did not understand what I was talking about, is because there is still a veil of carnality over your eyes, preventing you from seeing these things. See only those who are predestinated to be in the Lamb’s book of life get to see and understand these things. See this is why (the Word of God) says, (Rom.1:22-) (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man,). As one who was taught by sinners, who were not anointed, for we all know that no sinners are not anointed, but they are cursed and bound in the darkness until they cease from all sin, you will see this way. Then when one will truly go to the Lord God, who is (the Word of God) (John1:1-) and ask Him for the real Truth, instead of asking some man (a hireling), who is a sinner ordained by other sinners, you will then see these things clearly. This is when you will find out Jesus Christ is not and never was one special member as (the Word) plainly tells us, (1Cor.12:12-14) (For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ.) (For the body is not one member, but many.) See Jesus Christ is called (the Word of God) (Rev.19:13). He is (the Word) made flesh (John1:14) and we are to be the flesh that (the Word) comes into. To the carnal man Jesus Christ lived 2,000 years ago. To the spiritual man Jesus Christ lives in Him today. This is why (the Word) says, (Heb.13:8) (Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.), He has never changed. This is why He (the Word of God) goes onto say, (I am the First and the Last and the Last shall be as the First.) Please brother pray that you are given to see and understand these things, that you perish not with all those idolaters who change Jesus Christ into their man-made idol, instead of the Living God within us. See (the Word of God) creates us into His image and likeness. It is not some old history book, but it is OUR STORY. I will be praying for you Carlos.
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I messed that up a little there in the previous
comment. The TRUTH MAKES you Free and it is HIM,
Jesus Christ. If HE did not come in the flesh Jacob, then this Word of God is a lie and we cannot live an Overcoming life beleiving a lie. Let God be True and every man a liar. I believe
Jesus Christ came and Overcame in the flesh. Otherwise what hope do we have if it has not been
done by the Firstfruit, the Elder Brother?
Looking forward to your answers.
You know, I have been this route before and it
all led me back to the Truth….Jesus Christ. I studied many various religions and New Age.
All the other saviors you are speaking of here
never set me free. Only Jesus Christ set me free.
The TRUTH is Him only I believe.
You shall KNOW the TRUTH, (JESUS CHRIST) and the TRUTH, JESUS CHRIST will MAKE you Free.
The TRUTH is not just the Word of God, but the PERSON JESUS CHRIST and testified of my the Holy Spirit He sent to live in us almost 2,000 years ago.
Love you brother but I KNOW the Truth….
I also Know that some day Every Knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Chist is LORD! They and we all will do this willingly when
we “SEE” Him, and His great love and what HE did
for us IN THE FLESH.
PEACE, Love and Great Joy to you,
Dear Jacob,I’ve read about these saviors before and I thank you for your take on the rationale for it all. Poor Calos doesn’t yet understand the truth of looking within to find the true savior, but it is clear to me that what you write is truth. Please continue to enlighten us who are seeking more light.
Hey Thanks Winnie! We are all where we are, and I am definately not the authority… The authority is within us all… Even Jesus said, only one should be called teachers and that is “The Christ” and since “Christ IN us” is the hope of Glory, I believe eventually all will understand! Have the best day ever!
You are brained washed by Jacob, a man, please don’t spread your germs on me. Tell me, since you are so enlightened. When was the last time you heard any of those “gods” Horus, Isis, Mithrah mentioned in the bible. Show me their gospels. There is no prophesy, no mention of them. You want to believe Jacob, go ahead, may God help you.
Nothing that you wrote proves God’s existance. You can’t prove God’s existance. You have really shocked me.
Something else I forgot to add. If God had to use all these myth to prove something to me, then I don’t want to know anything about God. The bible is confusing enough for me to have to go read or compare other religions. The funny thing is that no one follows those myth, so everything you wrote and parroted are lies. You should do reasearch before repeating what other people write.
Not only that you are not Christ, nor like Christ, but you are very confuse. You never asnwered my posts, Jesus would have never done that. Every week you come here with a different story, and we are supposed to believe you, because what. Now you come with all these stories which have already been proven false. It’s impossible that any of these stories could repeat themselves, that is just common sense. Go to youtube and see for youself. Mithra was nothing like Christ, he was not even born in a cave, but out of a rock or what ever. Well Jesus was not born in a cave, neither out of a rock. You are the one that is confuse, Christians only need the gospel, not your gospel, but the gospel. I’m sorry you, but you are very confused, and I will never again read any of your posts. I hope you find the real Jesus, the real truth.
You my man, are one grumpy dude… I think its a good idea for you not to visit the site anymore. Why go anywhere or read anything that makes you so upset. Just remember, just because you disagree with something doesn’t make it any less true. LOVE LOVE LOVE CARLOS, AND SMILE! It makes the world a better place, you lift up others and the world becomes filled with light! Peace Jacob
What love, the one you showed me. Your love love love sounds like politacal correctness to me. Be real man.
Enjoy your life, live your life, love those you come across. So many people are hurting today, debate and back and forth on someone’s blog trying to prove how wrong or right they are does no one any good. Seriously, take these words to heart, no one came to you and forced what I wrote down your throat, you came here willingly and if you don’t like what you read, I suggest not coming back. If you have the truth you have no need to prove anyone else wrong, nor do you need to get upset. The truth can never be offended, but honestly I am begging you, don’t get all upset just because someone sees things differently, and take their word when they say, Love does not condemn, cast out, or make ashamed. Please have the best day ever, and I am not worried at all about your “salvation” we are all where we are, and we all will be where we need to be eventually. Peace Jacob
Hey brother Jacob,
Your research will open up many eyes. To know these things is a great blessing to all those who are seeking out the real Truth. This is what makes them the children of God, because our God is called the God of Truth (Isa.65:16). Please keep up the good work, which is opening up the veil of carnality that covers all of man-kind. I love you in the name of Jesus Christ.
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Thanks Joseph! Always appreciate your insight my man!
I have no problem in what you are trying to convey jacob.
What you are presenting is a lot like what the movie Zeitgeist presented and it was not recieved by the orthodox establishment, because many of the facts of these myths were distorted. This gave them an excuse not to consider these things any further, so they demissed them.
It is sad that the beast of self always eats from the tree of duality and therefore is always thinking us and them and always thinks that they are righteous.
They cannot see what has been told to them
(Joh 1:6) There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
(Joh 1:7) The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
(Joh 1:8) He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
(Joh 1:9) That was the true Light,
which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
(Joh 1:10) He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
(Joh 1:11) He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
I also like where Jesus pointed out to the establishment
(Mat 21:31) Which of the two does the will of the father?They are saying, “The first.Jesus is saying to them, “Verily,
I am saying to you that the tribute collectors and the prostitutes are preceding you into the kingdom of God.”
New Agers and even some so called atheists and other cultures will more likely recieve the Truth way before than orthodox religions.
because they say they see…they are blind
(Joh 9:40) And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
(Joh 9:41) Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
They have missed the mark but do not know it, they do not know who and what they really are.
They do not know that they are living in a delusional state.
They see all men as sinners spearated from the Father. They quote John 3:16 but do not truly undertsand that the Father really love the world and that the Son was sent to save ALL
Though we lament that they will cannot understand yet what we are saying the best we can do is to continue to present the Truth and the Love that the Father has revealed to us.
(Mar 4:23) If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
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The truth be told, I learned about this years and years ago, did research on it, but never put pen to paper on it. Most of the stuff I wrote, I clipped from internet sites, mythology sites, etc… not from zeitgeist, although I hear it is an interesting film. I hope most of what I presented is as accurate as possible, but I TRULY PRAY that the HEART of what I wrote is easily seen. This isn’t about discounting Jesus Christ, or stating he didn’t exist, it is about how important understanding the ALLEGORY and SPIRIT of the scriptures, as well as our conscious life, and dream life, not letting the Letter kill, but allowing the SPIRIT of a certain passage or story to ring true. In any event, I felt like I would share this essay today, because so few people have heard of these things, and I think that it in fact PROVES GOD’S EXISTENCE and VALIDATES where our salvation comes (revealed) WITHIN US ALL! “Christ in you” Peace Jacob