IS JESUS GOD OR WAS GOD IN JESUS?
Malachi 3:6 “For I am the LORD, I change not.”
Hebrews 11:1 Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things.
SO IS JESUS GOD OR WHAT?
This is the big question on everyone’s mind. Many different religions make different claims as to who, and what, Jesus is?
Here are some QUESTIONS that pop up:
Is Jesus God? Is God Jesus? Is Jesus only God’s son? Is Jesus just a prophet? Is Jesus a Man like you and I, the image of God?
The list of questions over the divine, or less than divine, nature of the man with salvations plan in hand, JESUS, has been debated for more than a couple of centuries, to say the least.
Few know the History of how Jesus came to be known as God and worshiped as God, and why there are pictures, statues, and a host of other “Icons/Idols” that represent this GodMan (as He came to be known after the votes were cast and the decision was made) BY RELIGIOUS MEN and POLITICIANS AND PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS… (Don’t we wrestle against such?) at The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE to decide the issue… In addition, when the Divinity of Jesus was established as Man Made Doctrine, it wasn’t the ONLY major Doctrine established by men, there were many others… Oh yes, what a web has been weaved by men indeed. But I have no need to teach you history, I will use the scriptures and hopefully common sense, as well as logic, to make this point. But if you ARE interested in the history of how, and when, Jesus was said to be the only “God”, you can google it. As the “Gospel of Thomas” states…
“Let one who seeks not stop seeking until that person finds; and upon finding, the person will be disturbed; and being disturbed, will be astounded; and will reign over the entirety.”
Few people truly seek out the meaning of this here mystery called life. I implore you, SEEK THE KINGDOM! Keep looking, keep knocking, keep asking, never settle (Those who settle never move forward again because they are stuck)… So, I triple dog dare some of you reading, really seek out your beliefs, find out where they originate, find out why they exist, and find the TRUTH! It will set you free.
Now, a majority of Christians say the Man Jesus is GOD, the Only One to be God. While a minority today say that God was IN Jesus, no different than you and me, as blasphemous as that sounds. But this concept is not a foreign one to scripture, as…
1 John 4:17
Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because AS HE IS, SO ARE WE in this world.
…and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”). – Notice the name MEANS GOD WITH US. Not God separate from us.
Jesus prayed, John 17:22…that they may be one as we are one – One cannot be divided. Jesus was praying that his disciples would come to know, what he knew, what God revealed to him, that we ALL ARE ONE.
4 For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, 5 so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.
Yes scripture always seems to be pointing to UNITY, oneness. That we are all connected, all made of the same stuff, we are all one. And yes science agrees. Look into string theory if you get a chance. But when it comes to RELIGION, there is a very big disconnect. Many state that we are not ONE, we are not the same, we are not worthy, and only Jesus can be “God” in flesh.
So today’s essay is about Jesus of Nazareth. Before we begin, I would like to note the very first documented scriptures in the canon was written by the apostle Paul, The books of Thessalonians I believe, and Paul never met Jesus in the flesh, and wrote these books some 30-40 years after Jesus was said to be crucified. The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, didn’t appear till almost one hundred years after Jesus was said to be crucified. And many things that most Christians seem to focus their faith on, the miracles, virgin birth, Jesus being God, etc… none of these are found in Paul’s writings, who presents a much more mystical view of Jesus. Is this the stuff of LEGEND? Is it true? Or is this an allegorical telling of a great hidden spiritual truth, which relates to us all?
But once again, another topic for another time. Today we focus on whether Jesus is GOD or Not.
It would have been nice for Jesus to clear that whole mess up for us and just come out and said, “I, Jesus am GOD!” But Jesus never said that, he only called himself the “son of Man” and the “son of God” – Both of which by the way, we can say about ourselves. We are children of mankind (ignorance), and children of God (enlightened).
But let us look at the words of Jesus, to see if he spoke as God, or if he spoke on behalf of God.
“Jesus answered them and said, MY Doctrine (Teaching) is NOT MINE, but HIS that sent me. 17 – If ANY MAN will do HIS WILL, He shall know of that Doctrine, whether it be of GOD or whether I speak of MYSELF (jesus)
Jesus also says in that very chapter in verse 42 :I proceeded forth and came from God; NEITHER came I of MYSELF, but He who sent me.”
Jesus made it clear, he did not come of himself. He said God sent him, he did NOT send himself.
Jesus is clearly saying, he is not TEACHING “his” TEACHING, but what GOD TAUGHT HIM TO TEACH. He isn’t saying, I am teaching MY TEACHING AND SPEAKING OF MYSELF… he clearly makes a distinction between God’s words and his own.
Jesus shared that he could do NOTHING of himself. If he was God, he certainly could, don’t you think?
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me
Jesus seems to be pretty clear. That his “Ego/self” was NOT IN CONTROL… God was.
Now this of course flies in the face of Christianities belief in free will… But I already wrote a paper on that, feel free to find it and read on here.
Jesus also needed to LEARN to be obedient to God… Many people forget/ignore this. And guess who taught Jesus, GOD. Now if Jesus was God, and the only God, why would he need to learn anything?
Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered
Jesus also did NOT consider HIMSELF (Jesus the Ego Man) to be GOOD. He said ONLY GOD was good. Once again making a clear distinction.
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
You would think that Jesus really wanted people to know that HE WAS NOT THE THING PEOPLE NEEDED TO FOCUS ON… BUT GOD! Jesus when asked, “How should we pray?” He didn’t answer them and say YOU SHOULD PRAY TO ME! NO!!! God forbid, Jesus made it clear, people needed to pray to GOD, THE FATHER!
And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth
Once again, Jesus the man making it clear… THE WHOLE POINT OF LIFE IS TO MANIFEST GOD IN THIS WORLD. And that GOD’S WILL is the will that must be done, NOT THE WILL OF JESUS THE MAN, THE WILL OF GOD… But this many Christians have a problem with… Why they do is beyond me. When Jesus was in the Garden before his crucifixion he also made clear that HE/JESUS had a separate will from God’s. Now if Jesus was God that would NOT be so.
Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done
Again, this makes it very clear. Jesus the man, is clearly not God the man. But revealed God in himself.
2 Corinthians 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation
Notice the scripture does NOT say, God was Jesus. But that Jesus was called the CHRIST (ANNOINTED OF GOD, THE POWER AND WISDOM OF GOD REVEALED) – And that GOD WAS IN CHRIST (that Power and Wisdom) to reconsile the world (our lusts of the flesh, eyes, and pride of life) back to GOD, our SOURCE, OUR LIFE!
So why with all of this scriptural evidence do people still pray to JESUS THE MAN, and consider that Jesus the Man was God, and not simply, the first born among many brothers and sisters (meaning we are all the same/same family/come from the same source, etc)
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Notice, JESUS the man, was predestined BY GOD — He did not predestine himself (ego/jesus in flesh)… an important point is, we also are predestined, but once again, another essay :).
Many pray to Jesus today as God, and picture God as the Man Jesus. Many worship what God created, the man “Jesus” as the Creator… And maybe they are right, then again maybe they are not. Confused yet? Well get ready, because if God is the Literal Flesh Man Jesus as so many claim, then why is it that from Genesis to Revelation we find scriptures stating very clearly, GOD IS NOT A MAN (book of Numbers), should never be compared to anything we can see in the earth, sky, sea (Deuteronomy)… well I could go on and on, but one of my favorites is found in Romans. People state they KNOW that Jesus is GOD, and that he is completely unique from us, and separate from us, and we must ask Jesus to come into our heart… And when scriptures are shared to the contrary, they tell you how smart they are and why what we point out is invalid, because they are wise and we are foolish. (Then again, God does save these things for those the world considers foolish)….
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an IMAGE made like to CORRUPTIBLE MAN, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and WORSHIPED AND SERVED THE CREATURE more than the Creator.
Paul is basically telling the Romans that they started worshiping MAN, MANKIND as God, as opposed to worshiping GOD, which, by the way NO MAN has ever seen, AT ANY TIME.
No man hath seen God at any time,
So we see the dilemma. If Jesus is NOT GOD, but the SON OF GOD, and we are worshiping Jesus as God as opposed to seeing him as the express IMAGE OF GOD, then this could keep us from finding who WE ARE in the grand scheme of things. We will begin to believe that we cannot be as Jesus, that Jesus is God and we are not worthy to do as he did, or be as he was… YET, once again we bump into a problem with this belief jiving with scripture. Because Jesus himself said, WE WOULD DO GREATER THINGS THAN HE DID.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father
Look, if we believe Jesus to be God, and claim this Man such, and this is yet another false teaching that could keep up from the KINGDOM OF GOD, then we wouldn’t want that, right?
NOT REALLY 😦
For every one that doeth evil (ACTS OUT OF IGNORANCE) hateth the light (TRUTH), neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved
Most people are unwilling to get rid of a belief that has been handed down from generation to generation. I know many wonderful people who have come into a different understanding than their families and have lost their families for such. (These families consider themselves to be Godly, but does that sound like God to you?)
The question I pose today is… Are many misled into worshipping something they should not. If there is only ONE GOD, and ONE SON (And that ONE SON is Humanity as a whole (which I believe, as that is what the name ADAM literally means), either dead in ADAM (Human thinking) or Risen in CHRIST (The Power and Wisdom of God) then why the confusion? Why do many believe Jesus is somehow far removed from us, and God in the flesh?
First of all, we all would agree Jesus never came out and said. “I am God” … He did say “Before Abraham was (I AM)” – But let’s be real, according to scripture, before Abraham was, WE ALL WERE AS WELL… And we don’t go around claiming to be God, DO WE? Well, some do 🙂 But let’s not get into that right now either.
So if this Jesus God Man teaching is error then why are so many intent on teaching that Jesus is God. Doesn’t the fact that so many believe something is true, make it true? … Doesn’t it?
Of course not! Most didn’t believe Jesus was EVEN THE SON OF GOD, so much so, that they killed him. And we know they weren’t right just because everyone agreed. “they knew not what they did”
I believe the answer is simple. Man wants to worship a MAN. We all love our IDOLS… We, just like back in the day, worship the STARS! Can anyone say Brad and Angelina? HELLO!!!! We even WORSHIP HOLY WOOD, we call it Hollywood. And the AMERICAN IDOL goes to TAYLOR HICKS! Remember him, what ever happened to that guy? Okay, maybe Taylor wasn’t our idol, but many others are.
So, Man wants to worship Man. That would be ONE reason to worship the Man Jesus as God… And scripture clearly tells us, that Jesus was a MAN. “The Man Jesus Christ”.
We are visual creatures, and we have been conditioned to only worship what we can literally, tangibly see. (yet this is NOT FAITH)…
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen
Many people claim that many people LITERALLY SAW JESUS. And many people today see the IMAGE OF JESUS (who by the way looks like a MAN, when scripture clearly states we should NOT reduce God to the image of a CORRUPTIBLE MAN)
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
So faith, is believing in that which you cannot literally see, and…
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Notice the scripture doesn’t say diligently seeking Jesus the man, but seeking GOD. Yet, many today are still waiting for a literal return of Jesus the Man, in the Literal clouds, riding a horse, cracking the Mount of Olives, with the Saints, in the Saints, as Rain, as Lightning, (The many ways Jesus is supposed to return is vast, if literal it would not make sense, but as allegory is makes complete sense.)
Many look to John Chapter One as the answer… They say, in John 1 it is clear, that Jesus is God… However…
If you read carefully, and closely inspect the text. John 1 is not saying Jesus is God, John states the Word (God’s Truth and Spirit) is GOD… And then goes on to say that “the law came by Moses, but grace and truth by Jesus Christ..” Many will say this line makes it clear that Jesus is the Word which is also God. But does it?
What the scripture is teaching is that MOSES brought us God’s Law, it wasn’t Moses’ law that he delivered, it was God’s Law.
With that in mind, it wasn’t Jesus’ Grace and Truth that Jesus brought, it was the revelation of God’s Grace and Truth that Jesus brought, as Jesus was the WORD OF GOD revealed IN MAN! … I wrote a whole essay on JOHN 1, which really goes into detail about this. It’s on this blog, called “Word Became Flesh” check it out, it might surprise you.
In the beginning was the WORD.. this is the commandment, the will, the truth, the spirit of God…The WORD is not a flesh man named Jesus.
The WORD was revealed in the FLESH MAN named Jesus… In the BEGINNING was the WORD, not JESUS the Man. Jesus (as we’ve come to know Him), the flesh man didn’t even appear on the scene until much, much later. And who did Jesus say he was, THE SON OF GOD!
Jesus in his own words told us, He was the Son of God, and Jesus was a MAN. As was, ADAM, who by the way is also the Son of God.
Adam was the 1st MAN (soulish/ignorant) and Jesus was the LAST (enlightened/resurrected)Man
Jesus was the LAST ADAM (Man)… Clearly making his humanity known.
So why the confusion, why isn’t it clear? Well I believe the scriptures are clear, it is man’s interpretation of scripture that clouds the issue. And hundreds of years of indoctrination and teaching that makes this such a tough topic to touch.
Keep in mind, while reading this essay that never once did Jesus say he was God. He called himself two things “The Son of Man” and “The Son of God”
I started this essay with a quote from Malachi = God doesn’t change. We must keep this in mind as well.
Now let’s go Old School and see with the Old Testament says God is and what God is NOT. Let us see what we CAN compare God to and what we CANNOT.
In “Deuters” 4 we see that when God “appeared to Mankind” he did not appear in any VISIBLE FORM, and we learn we should NEVER liken God to Man or Beast, or Stars in the Sky, basically anything that is seen… CHECK IT!
DEUT 4:15 YOU SAW NO FORM of any kind the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire. Therefore watch yourselves very carefully, 16 so that you do not become corrupt and make for yourselves an idol, an image of any shape, whether formed like a man or a woman, 17 or like any animal on earth or any bird that flies in the air, 18 or like any creature that moves along the ground or any fish in the waters below. 19 And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars—all the heavenly array—do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the LORD your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven.
Pretty clear, we shouldn’t be setting up any corrupt images of God as a Man or Woman. But let’s go further.
We know the Old testament teaches us to NEVER liken God to anything in the world, animal, mineral, man, beast, anything. Yet, as I stated earlier, many “Christians” often Compare God to a Fish on their bumper, or a Cross around their neck, or Jesus in paintings, statues, etc.
Could this be man’s biggest offense? Worshiping the Image of Jesus “the Man” as Jesus “the God”, as opposed to seeing Jesus is the image of GOD… God’s only begotten SON, which is the only way to the FATHER… (By realizing you are ALSO GOD’S SON/CHILD) – Jesus was the IMAGE of the invisible God. The scripture does not say, Jesus the man was and is God.
Remember NO ONE HAS SEEN God at any time… The SON reveals GOD… Jesus says, if you have knew me you knew God… WHY? Because Jesus revealed God. Just as the Kingdom comes without observation and is within us, so too is GOD A SPIRIT that cannot be literally seen. However, the IMAGE of God can indeed REVEAL God… and that is what WE ALL ARE… not to mention what Jesus was.
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
As are we (The image of the invisible God, no different than Jesus)
Now let’s chit chat about what an IMAGE of Something is, and what an Image is not.
The Image of Something is NOT the Something, it is merely a REPRESENTATION of that Something. Which makes that SOMETHING KNOWN… Make sense? I sure hope so, because I am CONFUSED by what I just wrote. 🙂
I would also like to draw attention to the words “INVISIBLE GOD” – Invisible is NOT VISIBLE. YOU CAN’T SEE AN INVISIBLE GOD! But people see the IMAGE OF JESUS everywhere they go, and back in the day when he walked on this planet in the flesh people say, they literally saw Jesus.
1 John 4:12
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us
No one can see God, God is spirit and Truth and Love. Just as you cannot SEE LOVE! But if you have SEEN MY WIFE AND I TOGETHER YOU HAVE SEEN LOVE… That is what Jesus meant when he told his disciples, “If you have seen me, you have seen the Father.” He didn’t mean he was the Only Father there is, he simply meant, if you got to know my nature, than you got to know God, for God is the Love (Jesus revealed).
AN INVISIBLE GOD cannot be literally seen as the literal man Jesus was… But the literal man Jesus can MANIFEST (REVEAL) the INVISIBLE GOD, through fruit.
For every tree is known by his own fruit.
If Jesus is NOT GOD and JUST THE SON OF GOD, than we are worshiping as Paul puts it, the “Creature and Creation” instead of the “Creator”. And vice versa, if Jesus is GOD, than I need to wake up to this truth! So feel free to comment away, as iron sharpens iron… But worse than all this is if Jesus is NOT GOD, and we believe Jesus the MAN is, we are placing GOD outside of ourselves, and not INSIDE.
This is what it means to enter death. Christ is our LIFE… THE INSTANT WE PLACE CHRIST outside of ourself, we enter into death (ignorance). We deny the very essence of our existence and place God far from us, as opposed to seeing that God is WITH US (Immanuel).
Now, I don’t really have the time to list every scripture in regards to the matter. But I have listed a bunch below that if you cannot reconcile wisely with your own beliefs, be they, that Jesus is the SON OF GOD a Man, or Jesus is God, then you have to throw out every single scripture written below and only hang on to the three of four references that HELP YOU to believe what you believe. Many say Jesus is actually 100% God and 100% Man… Even though that would be 200% wouldn’t it?
I pray this at the very least opens a discussion among us all and God lead us to the Truth whatever that may be.
1 Cor 8:6: “Yet for us there is but ONE GOD, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; AND ONE LORD, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.”
IS GOD A MAN? CAN HE BE A MAN
Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?”
hath he said, and shall he not do it -Would God say this if it weren’t true?
Psalm 146:3 “Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.” – Jesus called himself the Son of Man.
Matthew 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. (Jesus told many he is the SON OF MAN)
GOD IS ALL KNOWING… IS THE SON?
Psalms 147:5 Great is our Lord, and of great power: HIS UNDERSTANDING IS INFINITE.
So God is all knowing, if he is, would he then INCREASE IN WISDOM? Nope! But Jesus did, as we do.
Luke 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.
Jesus’ wisdom increased. Meaning Jesus’ began to understand more and more as he grew in God’s grace. He was in process as all of us. He had to learn to.
Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
Jesus, like us, LEARN from what we SUFFER. Through much tribulation we enter the Kingdom. But there is NOTHING FOR GOD TO LEARN, because God IS WISDOM ITSELF.
Jesus also wasn’t in on, the ins and outs of how God brings about the end of the carnal man/thinking/ignorance (apocalypse)
Mark 13:32 and Matt 24:36: “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, NEITHER THE SON, but the Father.”
It is pretty Clear, the FATHER (GOD) knows all and does not need to learn. But the SON (JESUS/humanity) does NOT know everything, and grows in wisdom and must LEARN.
GOD IS ALL POWERFUL – IS THE SON?.
Jesus told us clearly he can ONLY do what the Father tells him to do.
John 5:19: Verily, verily I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do…”
If the SON IS GOD how come he can’t do anything except what he sees the FATHER DO?
Like many Christians today, we seek to do GOD’S WILL, not our own. If Jesus was, and is, God, how could he have a will contrary to God?
But watch how the SON (like many of us) wants only to do God’s will, EVEN THOUGH the SON understands he has a WILL of his OWN (outside of God).
John 5:19. … I seek not MINE own will but the will of the Father, which has sent me.
Jesus was begging for the FATHER’S WILL, if Jesus was God, he would be the FATHER and have no other WILL but God’s and would have no need to ask for it.
Luke 22:42… Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
This is my prayer all the time as well… LORD NOT MY WILL BUT YOURS… I also, pray God LET THIS CUP PASS (Whatever I am struggling with now) But I am not God. I know God has a Will for me and my life, and I know I have a will that is contrary to God. – Just like Jesus. Think about that for a moment.
CAN GOD HAVE A GOD?
John 20:17: “I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God.”
Matt 27:46: “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”
Matt 26:36: O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless, not as I will but as thou wilt. – (Was Jesus praying to himself?)
Eph 1:3: “Blessed be the God and Father OF our LORD JESUS CHRIST, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: —
Please read that again .. It states VERY CLEARLY
“BLESSED BE THE GOD AND FATHER OF JESUS.
It does not say Blessed be our GOD AND FATHER WHO IS JESUS does it?
No, it doesn’t, it is clear that, like us, Jesus has a GOD and FATHER… It is clearly written.
CAN GOD BE A MAN
Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you.
Would God need to approve himself? But more importantly, can God be a man?
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
Okay, pretty clear. Jesus the man. God the Spirit. Jesus is a MAN appointed by God. And GOD is NOT A MAN! Nor the SON OF MAN (which Jesus also claimed himself to be)
IS GOD FLESH AND BLOOD? THE SON IS.
John 5:37: “Ye have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His shape.”
No one has heard God’s voice (They heard Jesus’) – No one has seen God’s shape (They saw Jesus)
John 4:24: “God is a spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.”
God is not a Man. God is an INVISIBLE SPIRIT within us and all around us. Not just that, but His kingdom cannot be inherited by flesh and blood.
John 1:18: “No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.”
No one sees GOD but the SON DECLARES him (Makes God known). Jesus is the WORD OF GOD revealed in Jesus, and now we IN CHRIST are the very same LIVING EPISTLES that are read of all men.
Many people see and hear us, as they saw and heard Jesus, but NO ONE AT ANY TIME, HAS SEEN GOD. (Can Jesus be God then?)
1 Timothy 6:15,16 God the blessed and ONLY RULER, the King of kings and the Lord of lords, who ALONE IS IMMORTAL and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see”
Paul said God is IMMORTAL, which means God cannot DIE. But the SON did die for us all, didn’t he?
IS ANYONE GREATER THAN GOD? IS GOD GREATER THEN GOD?
John 14:28: “My Father IS GREATER than I.”
Jesus taught clearly that the FATHER is GREATER then he (JESUS) is. It pleased God to allow Jesus to suffer so he would learn obedience. If Jesus is God would he need to learn anything at all? Aaaah, I think Not!
WHO ARE WE SUPPOSED TO WORSHIP AND PRAY TO?
Acts 24:14: “I admit that I worship the God of our fathers . . . ”
Paul makes it very clear, I WORSHIP THE GOD OF OUR FATHERS (Who by the way, did not know Jesus as he was not yet born into the world, but was in the Father yet to be sent) The Fathers of Paul, worshipped the ONE TRUE GOD IF ISRAEL, not a Man named Jesus.
Acts 3:13: “The God of our fathers has glorified his SERVANT Jesus”
Here we see, the God of Paul’s Fathers, GLORIFIED, his “servant” Jesus. Jesus is the SERVANT/SON of God. Who God sent and Glorified. Jesus could do nothing of himself.
Paul makes it plain as day in this next passage.
1 Corinthians 8:6: “For us there is but ONE GOD, the Father . . . AND ONE Lord, Jesus Christ”
Shall I repeat this, for us (Paul’s and company) there is but ONE GOD, THE FATHER…. AND (which means in addition to) ONE LORD JESUS.
God cannot be seen or known, the SON who God glorifies makes known the FATHER, AS THE FATHER is IN THE SON, reconciling the world unto himself.
WOULD GOD PRAY TO BE SAVED?
Heb 5:7 “During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the ONE who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.
Jesus clearly prayed to God to save him from Death. Jesus worshipped God… shouldn’t we? Shouldn’t we stop praying and worshipping a man, but know God ourselves.
LUKE 4:8 “And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, THOU SHALT WORSHIP THE LORD THY GOD AND HIM ALONE SHALT THOU SERVE.”
John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, AND Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
In closing, I want to say I understand that for many this is a difficult study and for others, this is something that is already understood and it is clear as day. I also want to say, move on to some of my earlier essays, as this revelation is unfolding and there is MORE TO SEE.
Because Jesus may not be GOD alone, but that doesn’t also mean that God is the projector of Jesus while Jesus is the projection… Just as the conscious mind is part of the subconscious mind but far less sophisticated. GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN YOU… then the YOU you believe yourself to be IN THE WORLD.
But the great falling away from the Truth has happened, and as hard as it was for me to sit and write this paper today, knowing it would offend so many, I couldn’t sit back and just allow what “Man teaches” to go unchallenged.
We must learn that there is no difference between Jesus and Us.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
This is why Jesus said “I need to leave”. They were putting their faith in ONE MAN, and were not putting their faith in the GOD INSIDE thet One Man. The Man Jesus that he was bearing witness of and revealing God to those God had given him in the world.
There is so much for all of us to learn and God has not given us the spirit of fear, which I have to remind myself of every time I write one of these essays. As I know many of my friends and contemporaries may completely disagree and may even take offence.
We must ask ourselves are we WORSHIPING MAN (by calling Jesus God) and changing the likeness of the incorruptible God into that of a corruptible man.
Scripture says it is IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD TO BE TEMPTED… Was not JESUS tempted in the wilderness? If Jesus is God, how could he be tempted? And are not we all tempted and drawn away by our lusts?
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
I also know, that no amount of biblical proof will change a heart that is blinded. For the “wise” of the world will call this foolish, but the foolish things of the world indeed confounds the Wise. And it is my prayer that we begin to see the ONE TRUE GOD.
So for those whose hearts are troubled by this essay, I pray you read and find comfort in this last passage of John.
John 14:1 Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; Believe ALSO in me.
Notice the word ALSO? 🙂
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Much love and peace to you all,